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At a certain point Riot, you're overreacting

CanISpanksYou·12/28/2017, 7:14:48 PM·6 votes·1,252 views

Ok I admit i'm a toxic person in this particular game, I don't like a lot of league players. And I think both the community and the game itself are equally infuriating a lot of the time and designed to make someone angry. I think league fans are smug, overly sensitive, just outright awful people who never even consider the other side, and it's not the toxic ones I'm referring to. Being flamed is fine, being reported over literally anything and banned is not that's how gaming usually is and was before this ridiculous tribunal stuff. And granted that is my opinion if albeit an unpopular one.

I question your methods riot and your absolute unfair iron clad removal of a players effort towards an account. I know you probably won't undo my ban as despite your claims I don't believe you actually care about reform or any sort of justice and yes my ONE game I was banned for was particularly "toxic" as your pr team likes to say. I was in a bad mood, I admit my wrongdoing and apologize.

But I was rude for one game. I flamed one person in one game after having my honor reset months after a 2 week ban, and you permabanned me.

I'd like at least the decency to have someone respectfully explain this. It wasn't recent. I'd been good, telling someone to be friends with the freeway for intentionally feeding and calling them a cancer. Is not realistically a reason to permaban someone and if it is that's insane given the nature of this game. Especially when you just implemented a grinding system that makes losing a factor.

I get you deal with "toxicity" and for reasons beyond me that's a serious issue to you. But your permaban system is both unfair and unrealistic. You expect someone to be perfectly well behaved in any and every game. And I just find that unfair.

I know Riot doesn't give a damn about it's players and I could easily just make another account. But I liked my account. I even tried to reform and be good and yes I lost my cool in ONE game. But that's ridiculous that one game affects and entire account forever.

I'd just like a decent human answer. Not some reddit garbage riot fanboy telling me I deserve what I get and how he's perfect and has done no wrong. No, I'd like a single reasonable response from the behavioral team just to explain to me why I'm not allowed to have my account if only to understand the logic that Riot is coming from and try to understand how one game of mean words is equivalent to having ones account removed FOREVER from a game.

I don't think i'm being unreasonable here. yes I was toxic for one game after what's been at least a few months. And that one game was the only log shown to me as well as the only reason for my permaban. Again I have been toxic before and I suffer my punishment and try to be better. But you act like you've never played a league game before and that you don't understand how annoying this game can be at times. Sometimes you don't think when you type and for that I am sorry, but I still feel a ban is uncalled for in a single game just because I was banned months prior.

I'd like a civilized, reasonable answer, though I know i'm probably holding my breath and will get tons of condescension and Reddit style replies.

But still 1 game with 1 log is hardly ban worthy. I'd even just had my honor unlocked. I was at least trying. And if you don't even let us try to be better, then what's the point of pretending you care about players or even pretend that reform is realistic.

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ModThe Djinn12/28/2017, 7:22:01 PM8 votes

{quoted}I'd like at least the decency to have someone respectfully explain this. It wasn't recent. I'd been good.

A 14-day ban takes a long time to work off your account, which may have been the issue. It's also possible that you exhibited zero-tolerance behavior, which could result in a permanent ban even if you'd gotten your account's standing back up a bit. Without seeing your chat logs I can't really be sure, although I'd like to help more.

If you have your logs, I can better advise. :)

I get you deal with "toxicity" and for reasons beyond me that's a serious issue to you. But your permaban system is both unfair and unrealistic. You expect someone to be perfectly well behaved in any and every game. And I just find that unfair.

The system has a good bit of leeway built in, actually. The severity of an offense can override the leeway though, as some behavior is considered unacceptable, and players with a long history of bad behavior get less leeway in showing reform.

I...to explain to me why I'm not allowed to have my account if only to understand the logic that Riot is coming from and try to understand how one game of mean words is equivalent to having ones account removed FOREVER from a game.

It's less about one game causing that, and more that the history leading up to the 14-day ban and subsequent permanent ban caused it. One game may have pushed you over the edge, certainly, but it's not alone in doing so.

If the log isn't egregious and you truly did have a history of good behavior, you could send a ticket in to Player Support and politely argue your case. They have, very rarely, given players another chance if one relatively harmless game triggers a permanent ban after a long period of great behavior.

CanISpanksYou12/28/2017, 7:47:20 PM1 votes

I appreciate your polite answer even if I disagree with it. I don't feel this game has any sort of leeway with language, and yes I probably used the buzzwords. Calling him a cancer and saying "I wish you'd die" yes it's a toxic phrase, yes I probably used the nono words for instaban, but even that is rediculous. People don't control what they say in the heat of the moment. I was mad someone refused to trade and trolled and intentional fed. I spoke with those feelings in mind, i'm not proud of it and after I reflected I said I would not do it again or at least try harder if it meant muting everyone or whatever, I was banned 3 minutes after that game.

Yes this is my chat log yes it probably set off the words, but the fact this game has words that trigger such things still feels so unreasonable. As if no one ever got mad at someone intentionally feeding and said similar things.

Game 1 CanISpanksYou: i love how the people who always refuse to trade are always garbage that shouldn't be the champs they get CanISpanksYou: oh well gg CanISpanksYou: you're a piece of shit stfu and continue to be bad CanISpanksYou: no one likes you and no one ever wants to play with you that's not salt that's fact CanISpanksYou: never said i was a good blitz i wanted to trade fo the champ I could've won with CanISpanksYou: but he's a selfish shit so we lost CanISpanksYou: i got 6/8 hooks but nice defending white knight trash CanISpanksYou: yeah you illiterate trash CanISpanksYou: learn to count or ff and uninstall CanISpanksYou: uninstall you seflish %%%% CanISpanksYou: good alt f4 and leave CanISpanksYou: you're a troll CanISpanksYou: the shit that dives in dies and does nothing? yeah you CanISpanksYou: you're crying right now CanISpanksYou: little hypocrite CanISpanksYou: at least try not to suck beyond reason CanISpanksYou: no i wish i neve rmet you or you'd die CanISpanksYou: either is fine CanISpanksYou: wish it was sooner CanISpanksYou: nah zoe is just intentionally feeding CanISpanksYou: i d/cd CanISpanksYou: well she's openling admitting to trolling and throwing on purpose CanISpanksYou: so feel free to report her CanISpanksYou: what does age have to do with hating someone incompetant and not wanting to play with them? CanISpanksYou: at what age is that a fun thing? CanISpanksYou: I WISH I WAS SMOKING CanISpanksYou: you do CanISpanksYou: and i hope you get nothing but trolls and d/cs CanISpanksYou: trash troll fucker CanISpanksYou: i wouldn't accept getting you once in a game is cancer enough i'd rather repress the memory CanISpanksYou: hope you lose every game zoe CanISpanksYou: worhtless throwing cancer CanISpanksYou: no it wasn't

Actually after looking at the chat it's even less toxic than I thought (yes it's still toxic but I had believed it to be much worse) this isn't really anything outside of a normal game. I get its mean and bad words are involved but is this honestly woth a permaban even after feeling bad about it and attempting to change and not do it again?

I don't think i'm being unreasonable. Yes it's mean text, yes it was toxic, but ban forever toxic? Really? For calling someone a cancer and a troll fucker?

I guess the one line of "wish you would die" could be considered that, but that's not even a threat. I didn't tell him to kill himself, I didn't even say death was the clear option i would've settled for "have never met you" Yes it's toxic and I get it. But I still think it's a bit of an over exaggeration after months of good behavior.

If all it takes is one game of anger how the hell does anyone stay unbanned? This game can be infuriating constantly and I've held my tongue (or fingers rather) many a time with the attempts to be good. But being called the same buzzwords and purposely provoked INTO saying these things by someone trolling on purpose is just kinda unfair. If not a form of entrapment.

I'm not using it as an excuse but I still think being permabanned for this is both unfair and unreasonable. Chat restriction at most. Should at least give some sort of final warning before a permaban is administered. Nothing after months then a sudden forever ban despite my attempts at reforming and my admission of being wrong is still a bit unrealistic.

The game doesn't even have an option for you to try and revoke the banning, that's why I posted this here in the first place. I feel the ban should be reversed, it was one game.

Am I sorry? Yes and not because I got banned but because I feel i was out of line,

DO i feel this deserves a permaban. No, thus why I just want to have a civil conversation about what can be done, I legitimately wanted to reform here. This company makes it impossible to do so with such paper thin guidelines.

I would again like to state this was the ONLY game I got reported for prior to my 2 week back a few months ago and the game that lead to my ban. Should I not be given at least a minor chance to reform?

Is my action really so insane from the norm that I deserve a permaban for ONE game of bad words?

andzki12/28/2017, 8:19:58 PM1 votes

a majority of league players are mostly babies, and riot caters to those babies because they're the majority.

being able to shit talk is a fundamental part of games, kicking someones ass just isn't rewarding when you can't rub it in their face.

I doubt riot will ever change their annoying stance against toxicity

EL HAMSTERO12/28/2017, 8:45:54 PM1 votes

obviously this guy was extremely toxic in this game and probably deserves to be banned. but the way you are on probation for like months and hundreds of games is bizarre.

you can have dozens of toxic games before you are caught and punished the first time. afterwards you might behave yourself for 3 months straight before slipping up 1 single time and it can be a permaban. thats really harsh

in my opinion the probation period lasts way too long. let it be 50 games or something