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I want to Reform, I want to change, and I want to be a better member of the community. HELP ME :(

JáwzMùlä·9/13/2016, 11:47:16 PM·1 votes·1,521 views

I am a very sarcastic individual who assumes that because I type something, people will see it as such. I would truly appreciate some honest feedback, tips and suggestions towards where I go from here.

I recently just got off a two week suspension.(Literally Today - within the last few hours) I received no chat logs and I got no email explaining the ban, HOWEVER; I am fully aware that I am no saint and when I think back to a few games I played, I am not shocked as to why I received this. I'm tired of being a douche when I don't intend to be, and I'm tired of making others feel bad when they play this game. I want to reform.

I would like to reform. Badly. I am aware that this will take time, as I am aware that it will take effort. I do not intend to behave the way I did before this suspension again. In fact, I did a slight google search on what happens during a two week suspension and a FEW cases turned out to be pushed towards a permanent ban during the suspension period. It's safe to assume I was paranoid, but I was also confident that I wouldn't get banned because I don't do what I do every game. HOWEVER, that is clearly no excuse, and if this was a post about me being perma-banned and asking the community as to why and explaining that riot is so unfair, I would be a laughing stock.

When I got my first chat restriction I knew I was doing something wrong but I never wanted to admit to it. You would think getting 3 chat messages + 1 every few minutes would be enough to silence a toxic individual, but in some cases it's just not enough. I'm glad I received the suspension because I know where I stand in the community. I am the 1% that is toxic and I will be the ONE to change today.

I have had cases where teammates would type in all chat; "report champ A for toxic" .... "report champ B + C, both afK" and even enemy teams would say "Hey can you report champ D please? super toxic". Now, I assume that the report system is misused when chat logs like these come up, considering you are soliciting to get someone's account punished, BUT if there is proof against that person, then the reports work. Two wrongs do not make a right; just because someone is toxic to you doesn't mean you have the right to retaliate. I ain't trying to Pope John Paul ii this forum. There are things I do not understand when conducting myself in a league game, and I can't bother to read FAQs atm because I'm happy I got my account back.

(For Those who read this far vvvvvvvv )

Where do I go from here? How do I avoid reports in their entirety? What can I do to show riot that I am changing and learning from my punishment? Does the honor system even work anymore? ... cause I used to have the red and eventually blue ribbons on my account before my FIRST chat restriction(People seem to look towards the report button more often) I was never given an email towards the reason of my ban, is my account under surveillance? Was this ban Manual? I did not receive a chat log restriction upon logging in .... will it appear the next time I log in? And Finally ... during my reform Would FALSE REPORTS WARRANT A PERMANENT BAN FOR ME? What behavior in-game would be considered Non-reportable?

These questions prove I'm paranoid. I want to change and I will make the effort. I just want to be sure that everything moving forward goes well. I shouldn't even be complaining about not receiving chat logs anyway. I am fully aware of what warranted this suspension and the last thing I need is Riot giving "second thoughts" about my account. Thanks for the feedback and let's make the Rift a better place!

31 Comments

Deep Terror Nami9/13/2016, 11:56:52 PM3 votes

Before sending a chat message, you want to ask yourself "Is this useful to the team, and how will they receive it?"

  • If it has nothing to do with the match or it's not helpful, consider not saying it.

Certainly you can banter about things not related to the game, but here you have to ask again "How will they receive it?"

  • If they might perceive it as rude/negative or you're just talking too much and may get annoying, consider not saying it.

Maybe you have a problem with responding to toxic players.

  • Don't feed them with your attention, just mute and keep playing the game. If they need to communicate they can use pings; they clearly don't know how to use chat properly. Muting is your best friend.

No, false reports won't contribute to you being permabanned. If you don't turn to negative behavior you'll be fine no matter how many of them want to report you. As for your chat logs, I recommend submitting a Support Ticket. Check your spam folder and make sure Riot Games is whitelisted, and verify your email address by clicking your profile on the top right of this page and going to Settings.

For more guidelines on being a sportsmanlike player, I recommend the following articles;

The Summoner's Code Behavior Worthy of a Champion

Vhan87659/14/2016, 12:35:35 AM2 votes

Best thing I do when I feel myself getting ragey at this hell of a game we all play for whatever unknown reason, I take a second to realize at least once all of us have been the very reason we're getting pissed off.

You've been the feeder before. You've been the person with only 39 CS at 10 minutes. You've been the person 3 levels behind before. And during each of those times you probably were mostly pissed at yourself for doing so shitty.

And right there is when I stop myself if other people are doing shitty because I know they probably know they're not doing well. They probably know they're having a bad game and they're probably just trying to their best at this point to not tilt. Just remembering that none of us are ever gonna be amazing every game is really nice; the person who fed last game could be the one to carry next game.

Lastly, if it comes down to it where a player is seriously reportable, like they've had a bad game but are acting out now like a child and intentionally feeding, then simply do your best to hold you tongue and then just report them after the game. Any reported player will no longer be paired with you in queue, so you don't have to worry about being matched with them again.

Overall, your behavior is gonna come down to your patience and tolerance. Go babysit some kids for a while and then come back to League, it will probably seem much calmer then. Or, well, it'll seem the same most cases. but you'll be prepared then lol!

Riot basically in encouraging toxic players now'a days, and that is leading to a much younger player base. Younger players means a lack of development, meaning a base degree of immaturity and stubbornness. We just have to act our age and be the adults in the mass of children now.

EDIT: Just want to add in as well, the fact that you've taken the time to type all that out and everything already shows your maturity and willing to fix your toxicity. Just give it some time and I'm sure you'll be doing great in no time. :D

XinCrin9/14/2016, 12:03:38 AM1 votes

Don't type and honestly don't even really coach them or tell them if they are doing stupid shit. You might get in an argument with them. Also you will probably never play with these people again.

Pings should be enough.

Magical Player9/14/2016, 12:09:06 AM1 votes

Or just do what a normal person does Just stop typing :D

TheSequelsRBad9/14/2016, 12:25:08 AM1 votes

Whenever you type anything think to your self:

"Is this insulting?"

"Could this offend someone?"

"Am I belittling someone else's skill?"

"Is this hurting our team's morale?"

Basically, just don't say anything that will get people angry at you and wanting to report you. Since you just got a 14 week ban, you will want to be very careful, and err on the side on caution.

If you focus on not being a jerk in chat, it is quite a doable goal. Just don't type anything that makes you look like a jerk.

I am confident if you want to reform, you can. Good luck.

Ozag the Mighty9/14/2016, 1:17:58 AM1 votes

Just pop the enter key off your keyboard when playing league.

MUSHROOM MIDGET9/14/2016, 2:35:35 AM1 votes

what helped me most to become less toxic was figuring out how matchmaking works.

in riot's matchmaking system you will lose about 50% of your games no matter how good you are, no matter how many feeders you get, no matter how well your teammates play, you will always end up at 50%.

that means if you get noobs on your team or trolls or feeders, they are just helping you get a win in the future. for every win you have to take a future loss. and for every loss you will get a future win. that is the only way to end up at 50% as matchmaking demands.

so if you are going to cause yourself to lose in the future with any win, there is no logical reason to care if you win or lose. now you can just enjoy the game.

Telephone Booth9/14/2016, 4:31:31 AM1 votes

Drop ego, stop trying to impress people with your awesome sense of humor. Don't seek attention. Don't type. Blend into the background. Try to make people feel good. That's all I could think of in 10 seconds but that should be enough.

Kei1439/14/2016, 7:54:19 AM1 votes

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Where do I go from here?

continue playing :) But keep in mind your next punishment is a permaban.

How do I avoid reports in their entirety?

only by not giving them valid reports.

What can I do to show riot that I am changing and learning from my punishment?

you drop punishment tiers every 3 months, so you need 9 month of not being validly reported to get a clean account. But you have to play on it, it won't decy just sitting on it.

Being not toxic is more than enough for Riot to show reform.

Does the honor system even work anymore? ... cause I used to have the red and eventually blue ribbons on my account before my FIRST chat restriction(People seem to look towards the report button more often)

The honor system has nothing to do with the behavioral system.

Though you loose all your honors when you get punished.

I was never given an email towards the reason of my ban, is my account under surveillance? Was this ban Manual?

it does look like a manual ban. you should send a ticket to support.riotgames.com to inquire more.

I did not receive a chat log restriction upon logging in .... will it appear the next time I log in?

you don't receive logs for manual review cases.

And Finally ... during my reform Would FALSE REPORTS WARRANT A PERMANENT BAN FOR ME?

While false reports won't get you banned, You are on thin ice. I advise to not talk if you can't control yourself.

What behavior in-game would be considered Non-reportable?

Gameplay related chat is not punishable. Don't be confused with saying sarcastic stuff that means "you are bad". "you are bad" is a personal attack and is not needed ingame.

However, you can nicely suggest that people need to buy certain items. "they have a lot of AP, can you buy a locket ?" is OK. That is the extent that you need to chat.

Other people will have helpful tools for you. My advice to you is to understand that you won't win all your games. If you are at the right MMR, you'll win and loose 50% of your games.

Which means there is no need to be snarky, as that doesn't improve your gameplay .

Handy Sandy 9/13/2016, 11:49:16 PM1 votes

Before you type, THINK

T - Is it true?

H - Is it helpful?

I - Is it inspiring?

N - Is it necessary?

K - Is it kind?

Rubbery Skrub9/14/2016, 8:02:54 AM1 votes

Advice from someone who also tends to be sarcastic: Just be sarcastically nice. If you're going to type in chat, just be overly/annoyingly nice. You still get in all your sarcasm/passive-aggression, but without saying anything that comes close to being report-worthy. Teemo

Rustling Bush9/13/2016, 11:51:18 PM1 votes

this entire post can basically be summed up to

"maybe i need to stfu and just play the game"