I'd like to Improve my Mental State for this Game

Ethan Hannum·Jun 5, 2017·3 votes·958 views

Hello, I am Ethan Hannum on the NA server and I'd like to discuss something very important

As of today on Sunday June 4th, 2017, I have been banned for excessive toxicity, and I completely understand that it's my fault. I've tried numerous times to reform, but I fail in the end, flaming someone who is inting on my team, or has engaged in a toxic battle with me.

So I want to ask what can I do to reform, and are there any games that I can play that could maybe reduce the amount of harassing things I have said to people in the past. I'd ask for anything that can help take me down the reformed path.

If anyone wants to know why I am very toxic and what had lead to my ban, here it goes.

I've been playing ranked quite a bit, trying to get out of Silver 4. My buddies have been climbing into gold and platinum with ease, leaving me behind. I know I have the potential to be a Gold player, and have shown that skill level multiple times, having carried with Varus, a very team reliant champion.

Now you're probably thinking "Oh you got full of yourself and thats why you were toxic" That is true. I want to be the best I can be, I want to be good, and show people that I'm not just a bad player who is hardstuck silver. Its like Dardoch getting tilted in solo que. I get tilted quite easy, but its not like I always go to flaming right away. I first ask my jungler for help. I sit back and farm, but my support and I are mis-positioned and get ganked, meanwhile our jungler is farming at krugs. Thats when I get tilted, asking the jungler for more help, overpinging. I never flame the support, unless on rare occasions that they are engaged in a verbal war with me. Because I know that if the support loses lane its also the adc's fault in this current meta. Then it escalates. Theres no option for me to restrict what I say. Which numerous times I've explained would help me improve. I don't like the mute button, because that person you're flaming or is flaming you, could make an amazing play that gives your team the win. Though I have some suggestions, I still ask for some ideas that'll help me improve my mental behaviour of this game.

Put a chat restriction button in the game. Kinda like the one you get when you're toxic. Once turned on you can turn it off, but it will not be turned off until the next game, so you can't just turn it off and flame someone on your team immensly.
A option that turns all curse words into something positive. This is a good one, because if they were to make it that once you pressed this thing on, you could never turn it off. I'd love it so much, and a certain population of people might too, some wont though and thats the problem.
Since pinging has improved a lot, just disable chatting in general, and the same thing as #1, you can't turn it off until the next game. This is if you can't trust yourself in improving your chat behaviour at all, so you can rely on pinging mechanics.
Something like the level 20 challenge. I know it was a failiure in the past, but if it is brought back, even if a ton of toxic players fail, its an amazing idea and could change the tides on the fields of justice.

Now I ask what are your suggestions? I understand that once you're permabanned you can't get it back, theres no lift. You're done. The one thing I'm really upset about though is that I can't get my NME 2015 icon back. Its gone for good.

Sincerely, A toxic Varus main with 231K on Varus. I will be using this account for the forums, because I'm not a very toxic guy when it comes to forums.

26 Comments

CrappedmyselfJun 5, 20174 votes

The bans happens because its a way to generate new revenue. They are literally stealing from people knowing they will just start new accounts and buy more rp. I mean they have a mute function but still ban people, it doesn't make sense. This game is ran by a cesspool of anti-free speech advocates and Social Justice Warriors. Last season they removed wine from Chogath, Graves cigar, and The Declaration of Independence from Uncle Ryze just to appease Communists. I mean the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.

Ethan HannumJun 5, 20171 votes

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The bans happens because its a way to generate new revenue. They are literally stealing from people knowing they will just start new accounts and buy more rp. I mean they have a mute function but still ban people, it doesn't make sense. This game is ran by a cesspool of anti-free speech advocates and Social Justice Warriors. Last season they removed wine from Chogath, Graves cigar, and The Declaration of Independence from Uncle Ryze just to appease Communists. I mean the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.

While this may or may not be true, they are a company, thats how they make their money (that and the lcs)

khorneyJun 5, 20171 votes

Lcs is what makes money and streamers draw the player base

CrappedmyselfJun 5, 20171 votes

They actually lose money on LCS currently... Riot actually pays Stipends to teams for their player salaries. Micro-transactions is where they get most of their dough. That may change after the new format but for now its not a profitable venture or at least where they make most of their money.

Ethan HannumJun 5, 20171 votes

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They actually lose money on LCS currently... Riot actually pays Stipends to teams for their player salaries. Micro-transactions is where they get most of their dough. That may change after the new format but for now its not a profitable venture or at least where they make most of their money.

They are going to make it back once Worlds comes around, because they get ad revenue from Twitch, YouTube, wherever they are playing, and championship stuff and things. And don't say otherwise, because everyone does know this.

khorneyJun 6, 20171 votes

true true and remember over seas its bigger then any nba title or world series

khorneyJun 5, 20171 votes

Agreed

Silly NeekoJun 5, 20171 votes

Buying skins and stuff is like buying fireworks or buying candy etc. Once its gone its gone. You do not get your money back, you just get the memories.

Or if you buy sunglasses and then leave them at the beach, etc.

If someone does things against the rules, they KNOW its against the rules, but they do it anyways..... I do not have pity for them. If they want to reform i will give suggestions, but i do not pity them.

Riot is not trying to steal your money any more than a candy company is.

People can stop with there silly conspiracy theories because this theory of yours is about as silly to me as the people who would stand in the dairy section and say "save a cow, dont drink milk!"

Silly NeekoJun 5, 20172 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/2AYywuAv-psa-how-to-deal-with-the-stress-of-toxic-players

A post i made that has some suggestions people found helpful or agreed with.

Ethan HannumJun 5, 20171 votes

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https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/2AYywuAv-psa-how-to-deal-with-the-stress-of-toxic-players

A post i made that has some suggestions people found helpful or agreed with.

Thanks! I read these before I slept and will use them to improve myself :)

BlueThingamajigJun 5, 20172 votes

When it comes to mentality, there are two sayings I enjoy sharing.

Hanlon's Razor: Do not assume malice for what can be adequately explained by stupidity.

In other words, most people aren't trying to troll you. It's better to assume the player is having a bad game than view the actions as trolling. I might be exaggerating here, but the two most common 'i got banned' threads are 'I was calling out a troll' and 'I was defending myself from flamers'. Notice how that represents both halves of the story, and neither one believes they are at fault.

Enchiridion, by Epictetus: You cannot control what other people do. You can only control how you react to their actions. (Paraphrasing)

This takes many forms such as 'mute, report, and move on', 'you're responsible for what you said, regardless of context', etc.

I genuinely believe that the perception of league as a toxic community does more harm than the actual toxic players (see #1). It's a game. Stop worrying so much about your MMR. You aren't under attack. Recognize that you can't win then all. Strive to succeed, but not to the point of stupidity.

Ethan HannumJun 5, 20171 votes

It is true that people make some excuse to why they got banned, and I've had my fair share of excuses. But this time I was very cocky and did in fact flame my jungler. It was no one elses fault but mine.

And as for your suggestions I will take them into consideration and use them to improve not only how I act as a player, but to help me improve skill as well.

This Is Your DadJun 5, 20171 votes

Regulating speech is your job and to take freedom of expression from people, however negative it may be would not change the intent. How long do you think it would take for someone to figure out how to curse at you without it triggering the positive word? If people want to flame they're going to flame, whether it be by cursing or by trolling. I had an adc that flamed me as the support, and when even the enemy team and my whole team said he was the problem he resorted to buying 6 kindlegems and running it down mid. Chatting is a form of venting frustration and if you take that away from people they're just going to troll. People that rage don't like people telling them what to do, which is why they rage at your mistakes and shortcomings in the first place. They're intolerable. Using chat to vent is what toxic players do, and the moment they remove that, they will be in a state of mental instability that rivals that of a 5 year old on a sugar high.

Edit: As a suggestion for your declining mental state, stop playing ranked. Play aram, normals, the fun game modes, and take it easy. Winning doesn't matter in those modes. Focus on the fun, and then come back to ranked after a few aram games or whatnot and you'll feel significantly less volatile and you'll win more.

Ethan HannumJun 5, 20171 votes

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Regulating speech is your job and to take freedom of expression from people, however negative it may be would not change the intent. How long do you think it would take for someone to figure out how to curse at you without it triggering the positive word? If people want to flame they're going to flame, whether it be by cursing or by trolling. I had an adc that flamed me as the support, and when even the enemy team and my whole team said he was the problem he resorted to buying 6 kindlegems and running it down mid. Chatting is a form of venting frustration and if you take that away from people they're just going to troll. People that rage don't like people telling them what to do, which is why they rage at your mistakes and shortcomings in the first place. They're intolerable. Using chat to vent is what toxic players do, and the moment they remove that, they will be in a state of mental instability that rivals that of a 5 year old on a sugar high.

Edit: As a suggestion for your declining mental state, stop playing ranked. Play aram, normals, the fun game modes, and take it easy. Winning doesn't matter in those modes. Focus on the fun, and then come back to ranked after a few aram games or whatnot and you'll feel significantly less volatile and you'll win more.

Thank you for your suggestions. I think that if I played DoomBots I probably wouldn't have gotten banned, as its the only gamemode I really enjoy. Its just so stupidly funny that it makes me laugh when I get killed. Thanks for your suggestion :D

khorneyJun 5, 20171 votes

really banning or permabanning are stupid punishments. riot can careless about people just know that for starters. i can think of a number of ways to make it better but riot does not care. blizzard does it right as far as punishing people, also why do people report other people why do they care so much or better yet why are they sensitive people to begin with? permanent chat restriction out weighs 14 day ban, if it was me any time there is no warning just bam chat restriction not hey eveyr one has bad days sort of crap because i am permabanned and no i didn't say anything toxic or cussing people out. Like in heroes of the storm any dodges of any kind automatically have to do 5 qms or normal matches on a prisoners island. Which is you que and the people that you get matched up with are leavers and afk people

Ethan HannumJun 5, 20171 votes

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really banning or permabanning are stupid punishments. riot can careless about people just know that for starters. i can think of a number of ways to make it better but riot does not care. blizzard does it right as far as punishing people, also why do people report other people why do they care so much or better yet why are they sensitive people to begin with? permanent chat restriction out weighs 14 day ban, if it was me any time there is no warning just bam chat restriction not hey eveyr one has bad days sort of crap because i am permabanned and no i didn't say anything toxic or cussing people out. Like in heroes of the storm any dodges of any kind automatically have to do 5 qms or normal matches on a prisoners island. Which is you que and the people that you get matched up with are leavers and afk people

While I think Riot could learn from this, they have stated multiple times that if you can't stop with your toxicity they don't want us intheir game. Though multiple times they've encouraged players like us to come back and maybe reform on a new account. THats one thing I never understood, because if its a perma ban, they should be banned from the game permanently. But this is my banned account and I can still use forums.

khorneyJun 5, 20171 votes

Exactly riot is a crap company when it comes to things like this. I mean I'm not making a new account after spending hundreds of dollars on one account. if your banned you should be banned, like wtf is the point of using the forums

Ethan HannumJun 5, 20171 votes

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Exactly riot is a crap company when it comes to things like this. I mean I'm not making a new account after spending hundreds of dollars on one account. if your banned you should be banned, like wtf is the point of using the forums

I think what they should do, is at least give you 50% of the RP you spent before you were banned, because having wasted 600$ in the end can be very upsetting, as I could've bought a new computer with that money.

khorneyJun 5, 20171 votes

Yep but they don't care. Hence why I know a lot of people who after having the 14 day ban they literally stopped playing the game even after the ban was over they went on to smite or heroes or something else

AeroWaffleJun 5, 20171 votes

That's the idea of the ban. If you're unwilling to change your behavior Riot would rather you be elsewhere. Sometimes a customer is too much trouble than they're worth.

Ethan HannumJun 5, 20171 votes

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That's the idea of the ban. If you're unwilling to change your behavior Riot would rather you be elsewhere. Sometimes a customer is too much trouble than they're worth.

The problem is though, numerous times they say "You are welcome to come back to the game and play on a new account" So its not actually permanent. You can say it is, but all it is doing is removing all that hard work you've put into their game.

Xbox doesn't do this, they just remove tons of abilities to do things, eventually banning you from Xbox Live. But there are tons of chances to improve yourself. I have improved a lot from that, reducing what I say on messaging, I went from flaming people to GG! because I got communication banned a lot, not learning from my mistakes before. But they give you time and effort to improve, but if you can't do it after so many times, they will ban you from xbox live. thats not bad because you can still technically play on your Xbox, but just not online.

Riot gave me 4 chances over 3 years of playing this game. My 1st year I got communication banned for a small amount of toxicity. I had no reports on my second year because Season Six was my year of fun, having enjoyed ranked and League of Legends at its most. My third year I had gotten a chat restricted for a joke. Then I got toxic, which led to a 14 day ban. I ended up making a new account because I am addicted to the game. Then I got perma banned now. TO be fair this is not enough time to lead into a perma ban. It should lead into a month ban into 2 month ban into 6 month ban, and if you can't take a hint, then it should be a perma ban.

Overwatch does a thing where you're suspended from their comp. Which is fair, because most of the toxicity in that game comes from Competitive, its the same thing for League as most people are toxic and tilted from ranked. Riot doesn't do anything to prevent people from stopping their ranked endeavours, and maybe allow them to only play game modes like Doom Bots or ARAM or something. They've had a game out for 1 year, and their system is already more advanced than Riot's punish system.

There are many more examples, but because I have a small pool of games, these are some examples I can give.

khorneyJun 6, 20171 votes

well yah thats blizzard. riot is a crap company when it comes to punishment. ohh i know there is more examples, a 14 day ban into a permaban is not enough time especially for you on your reasoning

khorneyJun 6, 20171 votes

sure dude what ever you say that is like saying McDonalds doesnt want you because you were rude to the cashier. MCDONALDS doesnt give a crap. riot is crap and to say other wise yuor wrong. Look at blizzard, xbox, playstation, hirez. all better companies with a better model

AeroWaffleJun 6, 20171 votes

You're not being rude to the cashier, you're being rude to the other customers. And I can see a McDonalds place refusing you service if your causing problems for other customers while you're there.