The Inefficiency of the Tyler1 Fiasco

RIP Resonance·May 11, 2016·6 votes·1,470 views

Tyler1 is still playing this game. Tyler1 is still releasing League related content. All that banning him indefinitely did was bring him more publicity. He's probably the richest kid at his university, to be honest. I'm not too sure where the community as a whole stands on the issue, as Riot Socrates' post is currently at -3.9K downvotes.

tl;dr

Tyler got more viewers/donators and is continuing to do so, while playing the game at the same time. Riot got more criticism.

18 Comments

21028037DEL1May 11, 20167 votes

And...what's your point? It highlights the fact that Riot does not want to promote toxicity. Players that watch Tyler1 enjoy watching him troll games, AFK, and intentionally feed if things do not go his way, even though he is a good player mechanically. Not only does this ruin the games (and rank) of his teammates, it sends a message to players that if they, too, stream and are toxic and feed, they can also make money off of Twitch! What a great message to send to a bunch of teenagers, right?

He needed to be banned and he needs to stay banned so this behavior does not multiply.

Riot does not care if he makes money, nor do they care if he streams non-League of Legends content. They are not Twitch. They just do not want toxicity to breed throughout their game and dissuade casual players from playing.

RIP ResonanceMay 11, 20165 votes

I disagree. I enjoy watching his stream because he's a good player. Not once did he intentionally feed or troll while I was watching. I don't disagree that he shouldn't be banned, but I feel like Riot going to the effort of indefinitely banning him is a bit counterproductive as they're just wasting manpower by doing so. Eventually the automated system will ban him, and he'll continue to play games. I'm just speaking in the sense of inefficiency.

My biggest issue with this is that if Tyler1 streams League, using overlays to protect his identity, his twitch will be banned. Twitch is not Riot, and I don't believe Riot should have their hand in their pocket.

PennsMay 11, 20161 votes

I think the biggest problem is that most people just watched some 3-5 minute videos of Tyler trolling and then think thats all he does + his "fanboys" enjoy watching it.

Atlas The BirdMay 11, 20161 votes

Whether or not you saw it while watching his stream, it happened. He got banned for it.

And I guess we'll just have to disagree that banning Tyler1 was a waste of manpower/counterproductive. The automated system will ban him eventually, all the "permaban" did was basically say they'll be watching him more closely and be more proactive about taking down his accounts. If it discourages toxicity, their plan worked.

As for Twitch/Riot, I can't really comment on that. It's what it is.

SarutobiMay 11, 20164 votes

It still boggles my mind with his fanboys that the only thing that got him ban (in their eyes) was that he was toxic. They never bring up that he intentionally fed (there is video evidence of this) buying accounts (which is against the ToS) as well as the fact that this didn't happen once or twice, but over 10 times. I mean I get if you enjoy him, but I highly doubt you would have wanted him in your game if he harassed you and cost you to lose LP all because he is throwing a temper tantrum. Because the same people complaining about him getting ban are basically the same who want riot to actually do something about people like Tyler1. You cannot have him still acting like a child in this game, yet want Riot to handle afk/feeders/trolls.

jjdietplanJul 25, 20161 votes

It boggles my mid that the OP is saying how RIOT made a big deal about tyler1 ban (giving him great publicity) and that RIOT basically made tyler1 so rich and you are here talking about some irrelevant stuff.

he isnt complaining about the ban. and tyler1 isnt either. cause he is filthy rich off the ban. he is super happy. any tyler1 hater/riot employee is probably salty as hell from all the money he is now making.

so at the end of the day, tyler1 won. thats what the op is saying. not whether he deserves the ban and what other rules tyler1 broke.

The DeckownerMay 11, 20162 votes

I thought whichever account is shown on his stream will be immediately banned.

aj502 OneillMay 11, 20162 votes

Spoken like a true fanboi

RIP ResonanceMay 11, 20164 votes

Me: saying absolutely nothing with the intentions of being an asshole Me: reads this toxic comment that has no intention of saying anything constructive at all because they lack the wit to do so, from a player who thinks they're the pillar of the community an outgoing player Me: laughs

Typical day on the boards, amirite?

PennsMay 11, 20161 votes

Typical day on the pb&m board* :]

aj502 OneillMay 11, 20161 votes

Lol...Cripes....Is "Toxic" the go-to adjective these days?

I mean, if someone has a slight hint they disagree with you, OMG TOXIC!

Widen your vocabulary, son.

AeroWaffleMay 11, 20162 votes

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I took a glance at his past broadcasts to see if he's actually streaming himself playing the game.

He's not.

His broadcasts are him spectating and/or commenting on game replays.

It's impossible for Riot to completely prevent him from playing the game. But I haven't seen evidence that he's streaming himself playing the game, so the enforcement still stands and he's aware of it.

RIP ResonanceMay 11, 20161 votes

He's still playing the game off stream. To be honest, I expect him to upload some highlights at some point in the future using overlays, since twitch won't allow him to stream the game using overlays, or he will be permabanned because of Riot's influence over a seperate entity.

AeroWaffleMay 11, 20162 votes

So what would you have had Riot do?

Tyler already got publicity because of his behavior and the number of times he was banned.

Now he got publicity because it's one of the few instances that a person is now perma-banned on sight.

Better for Riot to give him publicity through doing the right thing (ban any and all accounts) than through inaction.

StickyOctopiMay 11, 20162 votes

It's funny, the bans got him more publicity and he still get's over 10k viewers every time he streams. He can sit there watching other peoples games and get paid over $100 an hour to sit there and critique their play.

Riot failed tbh. They made it easier for him to make money while driving popularity to himself.

He can still play, can still make hundreds of dollars an hour off the game, and still has his fanbase.

Riot is pathetic. Flexing on twitch, trying to use it's influence to get people banned. "permabanning" players who have reformed. And as a whole, just not accomplishing anything. What if instead of wasting time ghosting streams to decide if people are banworthy or not, riot actually fixed their game.

What if instead of fixing "toxicity" trying to accomplish an impossible task. They focused on something that would be possible. They're literally wasting time trying to fix toxicity because it will not happen.

But I guess: Monitoring peoples behavior and punishing them for slight insults in a game>actually making the game balanced.

Money>all guys

AeroWaffleMay 11, 20161 votes

It's funny, the bans got him more publicity and he still get's over 10k viewers every time he streams. He can sit there watching other peoples games and get paid over $100 an hour to sit there and critique their play.

Riot can't exactly control how people spend their money.

Riot failed tbh. They made it easier for him to make money while driving popularity to himself.

They succeeded. By banning him they've sent the message that they do their best to uphold their standards of behavior. Even if it means taking the measures you've seen with Tyler. He was not banned because of his actions on Twitch, they banned him because of his in-game actions and his constant creation/buying accounts.

Riot is pathetic. Flexing on twitch, trying to use it's influence to get people banned. "permabanning" players who have reformed. And as a whole, just not accomplishing anything. What if instead of wasting time ghosting streams to decide if people are banworthy or not, riot actually fixed their game.

They perma-banned him from all future accounts because he was constantly getting perma-banned and continuing to get perma-banned. Riot stated long ago that if you get perma-banned ONCE they don't want you in their game.

Awkward CouchMay 11, 20161 votes

There really isn't anything Riot can do to stop him. IP bans don't work and as long as Tyler blurs out the names, there is no real way to know what account is his. All the ban really did was stop him from live streaming on twitch, which seems more of just a PR move at this point.