Mute vs. Report and relation to the "teach them not to" argument

The Ecdysiast·9/25/2018, 5:50:35 PM·4 votes·2,064 views

Edit: To clarify; either you actually want not to experience toxicity, or you're spiteful and like the thought of someone getting punished. The only middle ground would be talking it out with the person so they understand how you feel-- which would be the best option for people saying that they want to make friends with the chat.

But then, that has the same issue of taking the responsibility on yourself to make a difference that people this pertains to don't want.


For people who don't want to experience toxicity in game, there's a simple solution that makes it completely impossible to. Just type, "/mute all" in the chat at the start (maybe mute pings as well if you think that tilts you too). This simple method reduces the rate of encountering toxicity by 100%. There is no feasible argument, for those who are sensitive to "toxicity" in online games, not to do this. Because Using the report function instead has virtually no effect. Unless you're very high rank, the odds of running into the same people again aren't very high. And reporting one person has no effect whatsoever on the other people you are guaranteed to encounter who like to use the chat to express displeasure instead of inting.

How this related to the title is that it's the same concept: everyone knows the rules. Everyone knows being "toxic" can get you punished. People do it anyway. No amount of punishment is going to prevent people from doing it. It may change one person's habits, but it won't stop anyone else or reduce the overall rate of toxicity. You have a responsibility to yourself to protect yourself.

If you're trying to claim that it isn't your responsibility to make sure you're safe, you're just dead wrong. Crime will always exist. If America is any example to go by, no amount of punishment will prevent it. You need to take preventative measures.

25 Comments

Chermorg9/25/2018, 6:46:15 PM10 votes

I can mute people so I don't have to see their toxicity.

I can report them so other gamers don't have to see it either.

Subdue9/25/2018, 7:53:30 PM7 votes

http://www.relatably.com/m/img/why-not-both-meme/8938506.jpg

On a more serious note, what if I am interested in being able to chat with nontoxic players?

Kei1439/25/2018, 5:57:43 PM4 votes

What you saying isn't very clear, so let me ask a clarification question.

You want people to not report others because there will always be someone else that is toxic out there?

Jo0o9/25/2018, 8:41:52 PM4 votes

I make use of chat for strategic purposes. /muteall would negatively impact my game experience.

Jo0o9/25/2018, 11:42:31 PM2 votes

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Edit: To clarify; either you actually want not to experience toxicity, or you're spiteful and like the thought of someone getting punished. The only middle ground would be talking it out with the person so they understand how you feel-- which would be the best option for people saying that they want to make friends with the chat.

This is wildly unfair and inaccurate.

A) If I'm the support, and our toxic jungler harasses our top and causes them to tilt, become distracted, or even troll in response, muting offers me zero relief. I deserve to not have to deal with immature, toxic assholes causing my teammates to tilt.

B) if I'm trying to strategize through chat, I should have a reasonable expectation that my teammates have not muted me. An environment that causes a significant portion of players to preemptively /muteall destroys my ability to effectively communicate with my team.

C) I may have low odds of playing with the same toxic player twice, but I do have a realistic expectation that, even as I report a player that would have gone on to ruin another player's game, so to will that other player report somebody who would have gone on to ruin one of mine. Reports aren't about childish vindication, they're about actually cleaning up the community.

e46 Fanatic9/26/2018, 12:32:21 AM1 votes

that moment an advisor removes his own comment is the same you know League as OFFICIALLY failed! GGWP RIOT GAMES

Telephone Booth9/25/2018, 11:06:51 PM1 votes

Im not even sure what the point is... but as long as we live in a world where people say terrible things online, I think each individual has a responsibility to learn to cope with living in a world where people say terrivle things online. In other words, i THINK i agree (not quite sure), mute people if you dont want to see toxicity. It should not be Riots responsibility to shelter you from reality.

DeracadaVenom9/25/2018, 8:38:46 PM1 votes

I personally say yes, if your SUPER vulnerable to toxicity /mute at the beginning I prefer to play until someone gets toxic, THEN mute ONLY them