Permanently ban is a big loss for players who spend lots of hours or money on their accounts. Permanently ban cannot solve anything but make people disappointment. Let's talk about it, should everyone who has been banned get another chance to play?
I'm generally all for second chances, but it's just so damn hard to actually get perma'd in this game that I'm not optimistic that somebody with a perma is going to actually change their ways. Chat restrictions and even a 14-day ban, sure, they can turn their behavior around. But once you've pissed Riot off enough that they opt to give up future profits form you in order to remove you from the community, well, that's a few steps too far imho.
its really hard to be perma banned. if you get perma banned you received multiple warnings prior to it in most cases.
there is a reason people get perma banned. just cuz there is a new season dont change what they did.
Permanently ban is a big loss for players who spend lots of hours or money on their accounts.
And it's their loss, because they ignored 1-3 prior warnings, depending on their behavior. If they can't be bothered to listen to warnings and follow the rules, Riot can't be bothered to have them playing their game.
Permanently ban cannot solve anything but make people disappointment.
Well, the majority of permanent bans typically result in the banned player leaving League, so that is actually something getting solved.
...should everyone who has been banned get another chance to play?
What, like the chance they got after the 14-day ban? Or the chances some get before that with the 25-game and 10-game chat restrictions? Those kinds of chances?
Sorry, but if someone blows up to three successive chances at reform, I don't think they're going to. And neither does Riot, which is why their policy is that no permanent ban will be lifted unless it was applied in error.
Should permanently ban change to Season ban?
No. There are a number of problems with a Season-long ban compared to a plain old Permanent ban, which are as follows:
First, Season-long bans favor players who are toxic later in the season over those who are toxic early on. If you get a season-long ban somewhere in February, you may as well just start up a new account, because you're not going to be playing your old one until November or December, if not later - and that's implying you even remember your login info for that account, or care to get back on it.
Meanwhile players who get banned a week before Season's end don't have to wait much longer than they would with a 14-day ban, and can just go back to playing with hardly any lesson learned.
Second, Season-long bans do not reinforce the point. At some point or another, Riot has to put their foot down and say "look, we've given you ample opportunities to get your shit together, but since it's clear you don't want to follow some very simple rules, we're gonna have to kick you out."
If they could just start back up to playing League from that same account after the ban, then what message is the ban even trying to send? There's no repercussions to being toxic, since clearly, you only get just another time-out rather than an actual punishment.
That's why they use Permanent bans - to hammer home the point "if you don't follow the rules, you don't get to play the game." - and there's no stronger message than losing countless hours of progress and purchases. That kind of actual, tangible loss is often enough to get toxic players to leave League - as Riot intends - or at the very least shape up so they don't lose another account.
Third, As mentioned before, getting banned early may as well just be a permanent ban. Getting a Season ban at the start of the year pretty much is the equivalent of getting a full-blown permanent ban, because the only other solutions are to leave or create a new account, and by the end of the year, you may not even remember your account credentials or want to play on that old, banned account.
So at that point, what's the point in making it Season-long? Why not just make it permanent and be done with it?
Between the disproportionate length of early bans, the inequality of early bans compared to later bans, and the fact that just slapping on another temporary ban with no permanent ban to serve as an actual "we don't want you playing anymore, please leave"...Season-long bans are a terrible idea, and they don't even look good on paper.
No.
No. The only way to lose a longtime account is to REPEATEDLY break the rules. If you can't learn to change your behavior after your final warning, you deserve to suffer the consequences.
Think of a permanent ban as a life lesson: improper behavior has consequences, and those consequences can be severe and long, even unending duration.
Nope.
Because these permanently banned players should have stopped being an asshole and read the Terms of Use. We don't take care about the loss of these players because they don't care enough to reform or have the decency of not being a prick. Also, a permaban means we want them gone. We don't care about what they lost or how they feel about the game. Because we don't want them here in the first place.
They should have heeded the warnings and change their attitude.
Yes
Depends on what people were banned for. Inting/trolling shouldn't really get another chance. For chat related offenses, I don't think anyone should be permabanned outside of physical threats or hate speech.
Personally, I dont mind a reform program to unban accounts, but it has to be a rigorous program that includes extreme stress test and community service.
That's an interesting idea. I'd certainly be willing to try and figure out a way to implement it that would be fair and effective.
One concern I have though is that it wouldn't do anything to change how people just make alt-accounts and start over because their account is unavailable to use.
For it to be worthwhile it has to bring some benefit to the table, such as dealing with that problem, in order for it to be considered worth changing things over.
Yeah banned people get another chance. Permabanned people are the ones that missed the chance. I lost an account because I let a friend of mine play a game because I had to leave the house and one game of hate speech resulted in a perma. :) I don't care about the account because its freaking pixels. Didn't even bother telling riot it wasn't me. Just grow up, make a new account and don't be a tool.
