CS:GO's Overwatch Program

MisterSki·4/30/2017, 10:50:16 PM·11 votes·1,279 views

This was implemented by CS:GO and allowed players who had completed a number of ranked games/matches to review videos of reported matches and vote to pass judgement on the player that was reported. Doing this with League wouldn't be that difficult and would result in players moderating players accurately because as you get judgments wrong in CS:GO you got to review less cases. This would help people feel more involved in the moderation process and less helpless when it comes to dealing with negative players. The current punishment system feels very hands-off with an extreme lack of player involvement. The Tribunal wasn't perfect but there sure was a lot less of the b.s. than there is today. Just my opinion and idea though folks.

I really hope I rioter sees this and gives some thoughts on it.

36 Comments

MintChipHomieLix4/30/2017, 11:01:01 PM2 votes

This sounds like a good idea.

Joxcab4/30/2017, 11:04:11 PM2 votes

No, the Tribunal is far worse than the automated.

One, there's the backlog issue of humans literally not being able to fill out that many given they have their own schedules and are limited in number.

Two, there's the issue of unavoidable human bias.

Three, there's the issue of subjectivity and different opinions on what deserves what or what counts as what.

Four, the automated system is near damn perfect.

Zielmann4/30/2017, 11:10:58 PM1 votes

The problem with a system like that is time. The Tribunal was good, certainly. But it took a long time to issue a punishment. That means more time before the player is told their behavior is a problem, allowing that person to keep causing problems longer than they should have.

And I don't know that a system like that would be all that scalable. CS:GO may not be small, but League is a LOT larger. The volume of games to be reviewed would be massive. That also means a lot more physical resources (servers, storage space, etc) would be needed to support it.

And beyond all that, I don't really see the need for it. You call out all the additional b.s. that exists now compared to before, but I don't really see that. Do you have specific examples where it's consistently wrong? (Consistently is important, because while extremely rare, both the Tribunal and the Instant Feedback systems had false positives now and then).

SecondAirbane4/30/2017, 11:59:20 PM1 votes

riot spends way too much time working on the game they dont have time to fix the tribunal which is already good enough as it is

would you rather see fizz at 999 damage at level 1? or a non perfect report system

Kei1435/1/2017, 12:35:46 AM1 votes

The Tribunal was a great way to provide visibility for the behavioral system, but it wasn't the greatest at dishing out accurate punishment in a timely manner.

What you need is something lesser of the tribunal, but more like this.

MUSHROOM MIDGET5/1/2017, 1:34:39 AM1 votes

it might be fun to review chat logs. i bet there is some hilarious stuff in there

but game logs? sounds extremely boring. its hard to imagine many people wanting to watch 50 mins of bronze 3 gameplay just in case some guy starts trolling at the end.

Miror B5/1/2017, 3:04:11 AM1 votes

For me, the funniest part about this system isn't so much the common sense factor, but the fact that the two games in the name of it (CS:GO and overwatch) are usually the games people turn to when they quit this game after dealing with the constant feeders/ragers.

Stillname5/1/2017, 5:36:35 AM1 votes

Overwatch is in place to catch cheaters not to deal with people being toxic. The only toxic thing it will catch is if you are literally killing your teammates.

Also CS:GO's Overwatch system is far from a good system on its own. It can take months for someone using wall-hacks and aim-assistance to get banned.

League could develop a similarish system though that made a highlight reel of all of your deaths if you were reported for feeding and let people watch them to determine if you were doing it on purpose or not but I can't picture anything else coming remotely close to being reasonable.

Games are wayyyyy to long to watch and just picking one out of 5 that a person was reported in isn't very good because what if they were just sort of toxic in that one game and avoid punishment even they were full on rager mode in most of their others.