Your peers judged your behavior, but your peers are trolls, so...

R3alMoney·Feb 2, 2016·2 votes·609 views

This was in an email from my 14 day ban following my supposedly ban worthy chat towards an ally. Just to give some context, I said nothing all game except ff 20 after a clear loss at 15 minutes, and my ally says, "go play normals," which started an interesting conversation between us. I considered it nothing more than bickering. No homophobia, no racism, and nothing too offensive from either of us. Just the usual, "ur bad," "lol you're gold," "and get a brain" type stuff. I get reported and a 14 day ban with an email from Riot reading:

Your peers judged your behavior to be far below the standards of the League of Legends community.

I mean, this is a joke right? The very guy trash talking me first and reports me is a peer fit to judge my behavior? Sorry Riot, he is not my peer. He is a troll who happened to get me banned because he said some things that pressed my buttons. I'm already losing a game and to have this guy flame me is awesome. Good for him. Also want to point out how troll Riot is for dishing this punishment out via "machine that learns." It takes in no consideration of the context of my chat, nor considers what the other guy says to me. It only reproduces what I've typed, which would obviously look bad by itself. Such injustice is the epitome of fascism. Like going to court, hearing one edited tape, and then making a decision based on nothing else. Just thought it was funny that the email starts off with that statement. Oh, and it also says 0.2% of players get suspended. With about 70 million players per month, isn't banning 140,000 people sort of excessive? I know the US justice system isn't perfect, but at least they're not dishing out death penalties for people arguing with each other.

9 Comments

ModJikkerFeb 2, 20163 votes

They are using wording from the old system Tribunal in which peers would review and decide to punish or pardon sort of jury style. Hopefully a form of this system will be returning soon to help with judging trolls and griefers.

However, the new system is a peer of computers that decides based on reports and looking for "clue words" in text that have been programmed in as "offensive" and "bannable". It's why a player was banned falsely for harassing himself in chat jokingly -- because the computer saw the phrases "This Akali so terrible just uninstall lol" and was programmed to say banned without being able to understand or comprehend the context.

In other words, what that phrase means is that because fellow players have frequently reported people for using terminology like "ur bad" "get a brain" "ff@20", the computer has learned/been programmed that this behaviour is considered unacceptable by the vast majority of us and thus should be punished.

It is worth noting that you have not posted chat logs and doing so could greatly help us understand what happened. If you could give us a link to the reform card Riot sent you, that'd be great. In addition, 14 day bans just don't happen because of one game and usually you have a history of reported games, previous chat restrictions, and/or one or more warning screens about being reported. If you have any belief that this was a false ban, submit a ticket to Riot and discuss it with them

barbricksFeb 2, 20162 votes

/mute all. There is no reasoning with trolls online, or with riot for that fact. Literally type NOTHING and you will not get banned short of running down mid lane intentionally feeding. Ive seen the most toxic people in the world never even get a chat ban just because they don't type. Its the chat which gets you each and every time.

ModJikkerFeb 2, 20161 votes

This is also a valid option. I just prefer reform than flat out avoidance, but honestly sometimes better to be safe than sorry

EvilDustManFeb 2, 20162 votes

I believe it is .2% get punished. Chat restrictions and all, which is believable.

First, you had chat restrictions before this. So you've had warnings.

Second, did you log in and check your client reform card, it usually isn't just one game.

Third, there are three other players on your team you made the game harder for. Any of them could have reported you.

Finally, don't assume the other guy didn't get punished either.

R3alMoneyFeb 2, 20161 votes

The card says, "You are among 0.2% of league players negative enough to be suspended." To me a suspension means a ban, not a chat restriction. Riot's wording, not mine. Also, I understand that I've had warnings in the form of chat restrictions from literally months ago. My issue is that when I play 30-40 games a week and happen to have 1 or 2 games where an ally decides to flame and I talk back, why is that enough to ban me? It really does feel like I'm being punished from that ONE game. They say 1 in 6000 bans may be unwarranted, but if you consider the sheer number of games played by each person over the lifetime of an account, the number of unjustified bans can be quite enormous. 70 million players play League each month, how many games is that? 1 in 6000 is starting to look really bad. In manufacturing engineering and service systems, a failure rate of 1 in 6000 would put you out of business. This number is somehow acceptable by Riot?

ToxicOrRito Feb 2, 20161 votes

Receiving the 14 day ban typically means you've already received two previous chat restrictions prior, so this quabble in this 1 game wasn't your 1st rodeo with Riot's reform system.

So, here you sit on your 3rd strike with the 14 day ban. Your next stop after this is permanent ban.

Take the time to look around the forum and read what's posted if you wish to avoid having your account permanently revoked in the near future. Good luck.

R3alMoneyFeb 2, 20162 votes

Yo, that's the old tribunal you're talking about. The new one is ban happy. It's a machine that learns, and its learning to ban everyone for every possible minor offense. But yeah this just means I'll have to mute everyone at the start of each game. You should probably too.