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Well, I finally got Perma-Banned. Interesting.

Arxon·1/22/2016, 12:45:11 AM·7 votes·2,748 views

This isn't one of those super whiny posts that the internet has come to expect. While I did lose a lot (Beta Account with over $3,000 invested throughout the years, Every Rune, Every champion, TONS of skins, Etc..) I actually was anticipating the ban to eventually come.

What bothers me is that the message is stating that only 0.02% of all players are as Toxic as I am. I think that's full of crap. I play this game too and I can easily say that 60% of my toxicity is baited by other toxic players. There's at least 1 or 2 in every couple of games. Which means that my level of toxicity actually exists at a rate much higher than .02%. Closer to 15% even. Which while I may be personally bias, I don't even consider myself to be very harsh. I'll call someone a feeder or tell them they are making stupid decisions from time to time but I'm never the one using racial slurs or curse words. Heck, I'm actually quite a nice person. Especially to decent players. I live an altruistic lifestyle in the real world with a quality work ethic. I don't break laws or rules. It's really hard to believe that when it comes to the worst attitudes in the game that I could be among them.

I am quite competitive however and I suppose that is where the issue lies. I don't have a very high tolerance for mistakes or stupidity. Especially when any attempt to draw attention to said mistakes or bad decisions instantly labels you as toxic, even when trying to help. That can be very annoying. The number of times that I have found myself verbally attacked or trolled simply because I made a suggestion to avoid extending or to play a little safer is quite staggering.

In real life, I tend to find myself in Leadership roles or positions quite often. I'm vocal and strategic. I suppose when trying to apply these skills to League it comes across as toxic. Which I realized long ago. In fact, I gave up on trying to get teammates to play well a long time ago. I play purely for myself now. Knowing that I cannot depend on my teammates to do their part; I've grown content with just having a decent lane phase or KDA. Of course even then I find myself still getting reported due to a lack of participation with my team. Because I am within an elo where players run straight for fed opponents and I tend to avoid them like the plague I get accused often of 'not helping' and subsequently reported for it.

Which in the end I'm fine with. I'm fine with being banned. To be honest I never expected things to change. I never expected matchmaking to get any better and I've come to realize that most of the players in my elo just do not have the experience necessary to realize which calls or plays are good ones. But I don't see what any of this has to do with Normal games.

Why am I banned from Normal games? I feel like I should still be able to log in and play stress-free games that aren't played seriously. If playing competitively is what indeed brings toxicity out in me then why not simply sever my link to Solo-Q?

And why isn't removing the chat box from your game an option? If chat is the basis for toxic behavior then why not just remove chat for these players?

Anyway, I've been playing since Beta and my personality hasn't changed. Which leads me to believe that this community has become much more fragile. That in itself is quite annoying. I'm not sure when Toxicity became worse than feeding but there has definitely been a shift on that front. It's perfectly fine for a player to go 0/12 in a game and people don't mind them at all but the second you speak up and tell someone to stop extending you're all of a sudden public enemy #1. It's insane. If people would just stop playing badly I wouldn't even be toxic; AND we'd even be winning. So why do I get the blame? It's so backwards. I'd rather have a toxic player doing well on my team than a feeder any day of the week.

That's really what it comes down to. Players would rather feel better about themselves than improve. Which is not a good thing when it comes to competition; and not really the kind of community that I wish to be a part of. I knew the ban was coming and have been looking forward to having a reason to hang up my hat with this game. It's been a lot of great memories and when teams clicked it was amazing. I suppose I'll need a new hobby now to dedicate all of these hours into. Preferably something more healthy for me physically, lol. Have fun, Good Luck Everyone!

53 Comments

TheSequelsRBad1/22/2016, 4:18:48 AM7 votes

Well, this is the calmest, most well thought out perma banned post on this board, I will give you that at least.

disregardable1/22/2016, 12:55:35 AM5 votes

Why am I banned from Normal games?

Because being unsportsmanlike is against the rules in every queue, not just ranked.

And why isn't removing the chat box from your game an option? If chat is the basis for toxic behavior then why not just remove chat for these players?

Because that would lead to other unsportsmanlike behaviors, such as ping spamming and intentional feeding.

So why do I get the blame?

Because you're responsible for your own actions. 95% of the community can control themselves well enough to not be a disagreeable/negative jerk in every game they play, even though they play in the exact same environment you do. That means that the problem is with you and how you react to the circumstances you're in. Should you choose to make another account, you need to try to be cooperative and polite. Or at the very least, don't say anything and don't hurt your team.

I'd recommend picking up hearthstone if you haven't played it. It's fun.

HEAljvLykd1/22/2016, 12:45:45 AM4 votes

Why do permabanned people always come onto boards? Nobody cares.

VitaNovaGypsy1/22/2016, 12:50:14 AM3 votes

Reported.

Çhåryzård1/23/2016, 4:57:49 PM2 votes

You can't blame other players for your behavior. Learn to have self control, lots of people are able to get through games without saying a single word to anyone else no matter how toxic a teammate is.

Just because other people are toxic doesn't mean it is ok for you to be. If you REALLY can't hold it in any longer, just mute whoever is being a jerk in game and report at the end.

aj502 Oneill1/22/2016, 1:45:36 AM2 votes

Yea, I dunno where this "0.02%" stat came from but unless I am the super duper lucky one that has them in almost every game, to varying degrees of course, that stat is grossly low.

Not going to act all high and mighty on you or anything but:

I don't have a very high tolerance for mistakes or stupidity.

I can bet you make several mistakes in every game, I don't care what rank you are...

It IS true tho, if you rage/cry/whine/complain/salt/etc... at your team not only will you (usually) make your team play worse, but you will play worse as well... But I have a feeling you already know that. :)

Sythriel Draken1/22/2016, 5:22:41 AM2 votes

.02% is a wrong number that lyte is too lazy to fix or run new statistics on.

PIMPSMOOTH1/22/2016, 1:08:07 AM1 votes

{quoted} "Anyway, I've been playing since Beta and my personality hasn't changed. Which leads me to believe that this community has become much more fragile"

This leads me to believe that (1) you opted to ignore every warning, every chat restriction, every temp ban Riot presented to your account and (2) that you adamantly refuse to grow up in all your years playing on the Rift.

{quoted} "Why am I banned from Normal games? I feel like I should still be able to log in and play stress-free games that aren't played seriously. If playing competitively is what indeed brings toxicity out in me then why not simply sever my link to Solo-Q?"

The rules apply evenly across all game modes, why do you deserve to be exempt from punishment when you knowingly, repeatedly broke the Terms of Service you agreed to abide to?

{quoted} "And why isn't removing the chat box from your game an option? If chat is the basis for toxic behavior then why not just remove chat for these players?"

Chat isn't the basis for toxic behavior, it's a tool. There's a million ways to be toxic without typing a single word.

ModKnightsKemplar1/22/2016, 4:37:00 AM1 votes

Hmm...

I, too, give advice to people often, but I never have the experience of people flaming me for it. Sounds like it's a tone problem. I would agree that it sounds like you're very biased. Doesn't sound like you're being honest with yourself at all on this one, tbh.

GroundedEagle451/22/2016, 12:49:56 AM1 votes

This is the .2% they talk about. A majority of players are toxic one game out of 3. But that .2% are the players who are toxic 3/3 games. People that despite warning are unable to control their animalistic natures and act like a civilized human being. Also to be perma banned it means you broke a rule, was punished, then did that 4 times. Thus meaning after calling out all these other peoples mistakes you never learned from your own.

COMMING1/22/2016, 11:26:05 AM1 votes

Sorry I call out scumbag when I see it lol. Being sarcastic is the best. They will die I will be like " don't worry man your doing great!, you will carry us soon!"

The untrained 12yr old eye will omg a friend!

Samus721/22/2016, 11:38:41 AM1 votes

Ah, but there is a way to turn chat off. /mute all I've been using it a lot lately. In fact, I used it last game after someone told me, at level five, I wasn't doing enough damage. Well, of course I am not doing a lot of damage. I'm level friggin' five. I felt that rather than continue back and forth with petty comments and try to explain ...anything, I just turned chat off completely.

If you've been playing for as long as you have, you should know what's expected of you. But you still didn't pay attention to the first three warnings given to you that you were in danger of losing your account. That alone makes it difficult for me to feel any kind of empathy.

You say you cannot tolerate mistakes or stupidity. I can relate. But the difference is that I will not tell you that you've made a mistake...any more. I used to. I would tell people they did wrong and even offer to help. But the angry response I always get have turned me away from doing that anymore. So, now, I just don't talk. I don't know if that's something you would want to do or not.

Call me paranoid if you want, but I don't want to lose my account. So, I try really hard not to do things that would. Firing back at jag offs who do and say stupid things to me is something I don't want to do. So, when one of the special people in League starts in with the crap, I shut them down. If the crap was enough to be reported for, they're reported. That may seem like a dumb thing to do. But I have my account still!

Mystery Ghost1/22/2016, 4:07:25 AM1 votes

The toxicity in league of legends is 100% not because of players but because thats how the game is, in every second game you will find toxicity you cant avoid this