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When is it most difficult for you to refrain from "stooping" to another person's level?

Lothàrs Edge·5/17/2016, 9:31:43 AM·3 votes·815 views

I find it most difficult when the entire team (literally) is against you (and I consider myself a fairly reasonable person).

I accept the repercussions... as I did go a bit far as to some of the insults I used, and I know it's no excuse but I generally direct the insults towards whomever starts it first.

I just don't understand why other people refuse to see reason when there is clearly an initiator... I mean, if someone is moaning/groaning over a pick and calling the game a loss before it's even started AND intentionally feeds a person's lane because they "disagree" with an off meta pick, how can one say that the person who has the off meta pick is the troll, or part of the problem? I just don't get it?

I know it's my decision to react to these people and talk back to them, but I'm asking you/those types of people specifically, what causes you to further spread blame onto those who aren't actually to blame? It doesn't help the win-scenario in the least bit nor is it true... I just... faith in humanity is plunged.

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FatesDefiler5/17/2016, 9:50:19 AM4 votes

scapegoating is programmed into human consciousness. the earliest popular human literature is a story of a person scapegoated as 'jewish' and put to death for it. the technique of deflecting blame is as old and practiced as any human social activity. it has become as elaborate as any artform. world wars have been fought on it. the political trends of modern countries are shaped by it. people become too self invested into institutionalized brainwashing to ever divest themselves from it, and thus their entire way of thinking and all of their activity is an expression of their will to place blame onto anyone but themselves. hence the purpose of religion, hence the purpose of political parties, hence the purpose of arbitrary marks of worth like wealth or popularity, hence the regularity of bad players telling other people that they suck. it is almost a reflexive reaction for people at this point, and an unrecognized sort of psychopathy, that is so predominant and personality specific that empirical studies on it's observation are almost impossible.

Firu5/17/2016, 6:08:36 PM2 votes

I find I'm most tempted to say something unproductive if I'm legitimately doing bad. Having someone insult me in that situation just makes me tilt (both in terms of game mechanics and mental state). When I'm doing well, I can shrug off insults better.

Zielmann5/17/2016, 2:11:17 PM1 votes

The only thing that pretty much will ever result in a reaction from me in chat is if somebody is riding me for a decision I made, where I maintain I had made the right call and what they wanted me to do was wrong. In these cases, I'll briefly explain my decision and usually mute the person right after.

That is assuming I haven't muted them already. I'm usually pretty good about not letting things in chat get to me, so I don't often need to mute. But I generally will mute over actually responding at all.

ltmetal5/17/2016, 4:04:01 PM1 votes

I know a lot of people hate the mute button, but if you know you're going to say something that gets you reported, just /mute all and save everyone (especially yourself) the grief.

Narvuntien5/17/2016, 4:17:35 PM1 votes

It really does hurt.. I am not going to lie. I might go so far as to say it is actually triggering for me, I get transported by to high school. shudder

I can hold out for quite a while though, normally long enough for us to lose horribly with no teamwork.

I have been playing a lot of Bard recently and no champion gets teammates quite as mad as Bard... for a number of reasons.

i'd never say anything that will get me reported not even close. Typically I'll just start pointing out their mistakes petty I know but it drives egotists mad. "I don't know why you are mad I am playing well you are the one that's feeding, that was my first death" "your CS is really bad this game, pick it up"

Perhaps it could be described as borderline trolling but the best line is "there is no need to be upset"

Bard's sauntering walk animation makes it even better. your team dies horribly but you just took a journey out. "haters going to hate" Your ulti accidentally messes up a kill "shake it off" by the end of the game you quote the whole song.

this is actual trolling none of this vulgar stuff, its not true trolling if the reason they are mad is legitament, they have to be mad because they are the one at fault.

XxxLumberJackxxX5/17/2016, 12:31:58 PM1 votes

When I was 4.

StickyOctopi5/17/2016, 7:39:47 PM1 votes

When I'm carrying my team really hard, being the most fed in the game by far, dumpstering my lane opponent.

then one of my other lanes feeds hard and we end up losing bc 0-16 bot lane.

But is what tilts me the most is when I'm like 10-2 or some shit and we lose and my 2-10-0 lane opponent who got carried has the nerve to start shit talking or say ggez.

Hullabaloo9075/17/2016, 7:44:39 PM1 votes

ADCs who blame the support for when they feed. About 70% of the time it is because the adc isnt playing passive when they should be playing passive.

Toru Itai5/17/2016, 7:45:29 PM1 votes

for me it's most difficult to resist stooping when anyone on either team preforms a "lucky flash" in the first 5 minutes of the game, i just can't resist hitting D.

Telephone Booth5/19/2016, 12:01:06 AM1 votes

For me it's when I don't rag on a person that everyone else is ragging on. They get mad and flame back and say some over the top things and I go oh man you shouldn't say that dude now if u get reported you will probably get fucked. With no intention to report him, no insults, just a like, warning or reminder that you can't just say that shit. They then talk about how those words aren't even bad and call me childish for saying it doesn't matter, all that matters is Riots stance on it. And then they mute me.

Lol like really? Who's childish? I just stop typing regardless of if they keep typing to me (cuz hald the time theyll say muted and then try to keep talking to you) and end up reporting them. Idc about foul language or random strangers' attempts at offending people... but when you're just a douche about real discussions that aren't even meant to be an arguement... you get reported kids. Fuck that. Just be a real person. So hard not to go off on em, but I just remind myself they mean nothing to me at all and would say that shit to anyone. Don't take anything personal on the internet/in game.

Zaryelle5/19/2016, 5:56:11 PM1 votes

When I'm support and I did everything I could to save them, and then they die and act like I didn't help them at all. Saying shit like 'Where were you" when I was literally with them the whole time healing or whatever. Generally these people end up being reported because they are starting to say false things in chat to make it seem like I'm trolling.

I don't actually stoop to their level, but I will say 'I was with you the whole time?' and this usually pisses them off really bad because they are trying to paint a picture of me trolling, probably so they can falsely report me.

So basically when they are scapegoating someone else for their mistakes, or they are trying to make it seem like someone else is trolling when they are not at all so they can make their false reports seem valid, that is one of the things that gets me close to stooping to their level. It's usually best to just mute these idiots