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Toxic Junglers

KoganeRyujin·11/1/2016, 2:28:02 AM·1 votes·1,580 views

Ok I'll start by admitting it, I'm far from the best LoL player. I have my moments were I'm God-tier I'm carrying the team and I snuff out hope for the enemy team like a pond snuffs out the flame of a match, but those come rarely and only if my team mates are good. I tend to be highly effected by my team mates, which I'll explain later. I've always been a support main, Thresh is and always has been my baby, he was the first 6300 IP champion I ever bought. But lately I've been trying to move away from the support role and dance to different drums, I found a love for Jhin, Renekton, Brand, and most recently Azir. Anyway I went back to the support role for old times sake, I didn't want my skills to get rusty. I'm playing Thresh, and my adc is a Jinx, and I don't know I think the enemy team had a Draven or a Jhin (it was a couple months ago). But the enemy team was nothing to sneeze at, they were good. But my Jinx was better. I was doing abnormally well, the best I'd ever done. I got an S- that game and so did Jinx. It wasn't an S+, but it was still my first S. A couple weeks later it happened again, I finally reached level Six with a champion. Everything about my teammates was the same as before. That's when I realized that whenever I play League, I only play as good as my team does. I don't know what it is, but especially when I play support, if I have a good lane partner, I'm just as good. That Jinx and I were so in sync it was like we always knew what the other was thinking. It was like Jinx always knew I was about to land a madlife-tier hook, Jinx knew how I liked to use the lantern from the get-go as if my way of using it was just common sense in her mind, I knew when Jinx was ready to go in, I knew when Jinx was trying to get away or ruse the enemy with her saying a word, I didn't let them get a single kill on Jinx. I guess What I'm trying to say is that I invariably take after my teammates. That's where I get to the main point of this post, Toxic Junglers. I know it, you know it, we all know what it's like to have a toxic, salty, mean spirited, spiteful jungler when your a squishy mid-lane or bot-lane carry. It's like you have to kiss this player's a** if you want to win lane, it doesn't matter if the lowest-health enemy tower is in your lane or not, it doesn't matter how well the other lanes are doing while your being lane-bullied or camped by a tanky as hell Zac this player will not give you a gank if you don't kiss their a**, and even if you did they probably wouldn't help you. Today I was playing a game as Azir, my opponent was Akali, I was doing quite well zoning her out. Then I made a small mistake that would prove fatal all because of my toxic, vindictive Vi jungler. I went to blue as I saw that Vi was there and the enemy Zac was there ready to pounce on her, I went and gave Zac a few good pokes as he just stood there preparing to slingshot and then canceling it, and then left as I saw that Akali was pushing and I wasn't doing hardly any damage to Zac. Apparently Zac managed to get blue buff, and that's when it started. I kept holding lane as Akali was catching up and I was waiting for a gank not knowing that I had done anything wrong. Then Zac started to camp, and eventually they got a kill on me. I put in the chat "Zac is camping me" Vi replied with "and?" at that point I had an idea of what was happening, but I didn't want to assume, so I said "I need some help" I was waiting to respawn and Vi said "Then go get some" so as I was going back to lane I said, "Ok i really dont care for you at all" and then later I said "vi give me a gank" and she immediately replied "No." I was flabbergasted I didn't know how to respond and somehow Vi managed to convince the whole team that I was at fault, that I was feeding, when she literally refused to help me. It doesn't matter if it was a joke; when she realized that I didn't pick up on it she should have said so. She continued to flame me, telling everyone to report me for feeding. I made it clear I was not in the mood, and that picking fun at me was not going to make me play better, and I even started to lag. It was a point in the game that even if I was lagging I would have dominated the enemy team if Vi had just helped me early on. The only reason I know why Vi refused to help me is because she specifically told me that it started when I let Zac have Blue Buff. I made one mistake and that warranted ruining my day and making me feel like crap. Come to think of it I wish I had thought to honor that Akali because she was the only one who came to my defense in the chat after the game. But I was too wrapped up in the toxicity I had just had to deal with. A toxic player in the assistance roles like the jungle and support is probably the worst, and it's enough to lose you a game. It's a TEAM GAME GUYS, it's not all about you. Stop flaming other players when they made one mistake in the beginning because it doesn't help at all. I have literally told a toxic player that they were being the literal stereotypical toxic player and been told "there's a reason we exist"... NO THERE ISN'T! It doesn't help your team at all, in fact the statistics show that being toxic and flaming your teammates after making a mistake makes them more likely to make that mistake again. There is no reason for toxic players to exist, the only reason anyone would say that is because you have the impulsive urge to scream at something and you don't have someone to scream at in front of you. I'm not saying that anyone should start ragging on Junglers, they're an essential member to any team, any toxic player should be reported. I don't know how much Riot can actually do about this sort of thing, so instead I just want to address everyone in general: Please, please, please do not be toxic. Please don't flame your teammates for having a bad game, please don't "punish" them for making a mistake. If you aren't able to see eye-to-eye with your teammates then you need to stop playing for a while (I mean like a month or two) and really think about why you can't have a decent game with such a person before you come back to it. Guys Riot doesn't know what to do at this point, that much is obvious. So it's up to us to mold our community. If you see a player being really toxic or being mean to one player in particular for no apparent reason, call them out on it, if they refuse to recognize it or something then report them. DON'T BE MEAN TO YOUR TEAMMATES NO MATTER HOW BAD OF A GAME THEY ARE HAVING, YOU WON'T HELP ANYTHING!!!!! Thanks for reading.

6 Comments

Frothy Mushroom11/1/2016, 2:51:48 AM2 votes

Coming from a jungler main, junglers catch by far the most flack because, "You're not ganking my lane enough, noob!" or "Why don't you have dragon control?!" and even, "Control your jungle! Lee shouldn't be stealing your buffs!" and things of the like. Teams need a good, level headed and perceptive jungler who knows when to gank, and sometimes the rest of the team can win their lanes and it won't matter, but if you lost a lane, 9/10 times the jungler will get blamed for it, and heaven forbid you lose all lanes, you're in for a storm of criticism.

I know you want to write up this long post complaining about toxic junglers, but think about just how much constant crap they put up with if let's say they under perform on just one gank. As if trying to be logical in an argument ever mattered. You can't say "You shouldn't have come back to save me" or "You held on to flash too long" after a gank, it's still your fault. #junglerLifeSadLife

I'm not excusing toxicity, I'm just trying to help you realize there's a reason junglers are typically hot headed and don't put up with much from their teamates, because they're getting abuse constantly in most cases if they're losing.

ShinkoMinori11/1/2016, 3:18:25 AM1 votes

Your elo is so low you are playing against pre30.

Hryna11/1/2016, 3:45:52 AM1 votes

I don't even get how you get caught up in this and then they all but then she defended me and then I.. wtf? notice someone starting bullshit about you in chat? What's the only thing that matters? Are you getting a gank or not. Not? Cut the losses. You realized pretty soon the answer to the question, and way before the "and then she somehow convinced the entire team that i was the feeder" crap. When I started to try and win the argument in chats, or participate in ones at all, I was so much more at ease. It helps you level your priorities, as in, it makes your focus stronger. And to some extent, not always though, mitigate the negative impact of those kind of words to me. And people give up abusing someone who doesn't engage. This is why I'm so surprised to see so many people say they "stand up for themselves". In chat? If you are not ""standing up for yourself"" then you're ignoring what's being said, and how is that not a stronger statement than lowering yourself to those people's level.

And if you keep practicing not engaging you will eventually stop even feeling the need to do that in order to preserve your integrity, that's the best thing about it.