Everyone has bad games.

The Ecdysiast··2 votes·1,346 views

Feeding in one game doesn't make someone a bad player.

Likewise, just pointing that someone fed one of the enemies is not calling that person a bad player.

It's not negative attitude or verbal abuse. It's simply stating that in that current game champion X died to champion Y several times.

(It's the same as if you said an enemy fed your ally. If I'm wrong and the former is an offense, then so is the latter.)

Please note: "Tristana fed Vayne." is entirely different from "Tristana sucks, and should uninstall because she fed Vayne."

One is a comment on #game state. It lets your other allies know that if they try to 2v1 alongside Tris against Vayne, they may still lose the fight.** Fed is a very common term for these games and is used to describe such a situation. Saying just the Vayne IS fed doesn't give enough information for your allies to know Tris won't always be able to make the 2v1 a win. **

The other is harassment-which may accompany the first, but does not change the meaning of the first. #Please know the difference.

And you can't pretend that a phrase which isn't negative is against the rules when it's misinterpreted. If you were to say the enemies are at Dragon, and the jungler happens to be too far to contest, would you expect the jungler to report you because it "made him feel bad"? That holds just as much imagined hostility as the other scenario.

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Glaedr3 votes

Honestly, you're 100% right OP, too bad that's not the case when people come crying here only to get exposed for straight-up lying. People pretend that's all they say, when in reality, they end up going the whole nine yards the majority of the time by calling people garbage losers that need to stop playing in multiple games.

If someone really said nothing but something along the lines of "hey, you fed the this guy, we cannot fight", then I would say any punishment related to that is not deserved if they did not go any further. But like I said, that almost never happens.

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

Exactly. I honestly say things like this all the time and haven't gotten punished for it.

My favorite non-punishable insult is calling people business majors. It's probably the worst possible insult you can tell someone, but it's not punishable!

Linthe3 votes

There is a pretty negative connotation to the word "feed"...

Wow.. bot lane fed... (This basically means bot lane sucked the whole laning phase and cost the other 3 players the game)

Who fed the Jinx?? (Gee.. I dunno... Im guessing it probably wasnt the top lane Malphite.)

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

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Who fed the Jinx?? (Gee.. I dunno... Im guessing it probably wasnt the top lane Malphite.)

My teammates would amaze you.

Linthe1 votes

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My teammates would amaze you.

That's why I said probably :P

haxxorz2 votes

It can be discouraging to the player. Trust me, they know they have died. You don't need to tell them. It's like back in high school if you failed a math test, would you like it if someone reminded you that you failed shortly after it happened? Similarly, telling someone they are feeding does not necessarily come across as toxic, but it does portray a negative attitude for sure.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

It does not portray a negative attitude. It is only stating a fact of that game that the other allies may not be aware of.

If a player takes it the wrong way, that's on them. All it is is an update on the game like "Dragon is up." "We haven't gotten any ganks bot." "Mid MIA."

It's a different thing entirely to say, "You suck because you fed." But just saying that one champion fed another is not negative, which is why I pointed out that it is the same if you were to say it to an enemy.

leaugesbane1 votes

deaf ears my friend deaf ears....

again there are people who will get that 5 games straight cause of 5 different people feeding is toxic even if its one game and frankly its made worse sense it usually means some one had to forfeit the role which you then fed with.

Bettnachleger1 votes

You don't need to point out the mistakes of other. Instead shut your mouth and try to help that poor player or what ever. I mean, it's like going to a fat guy and tell him "hey, you're fat" it's a fact, but still it maybe hurt that person no matter how true that statement is. (and I bet he knows already that he's fat ;D so does the guy who feed and your whole team know about it too)

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Like I've said twice now, it's not pointing out a mistake.

It's a call-out to the team to be aware that even if they try to 2v1, if their ally in that fight is the person who fed they might still lose. It's not at all like saying someone is fat. That would be like calling someone bad, since being fat is always negative. The team needs to know who fed so they know they aren't guaranteed to win a 2v1 while he's their backup. It's a game state update. Fed is a term mobas use for such a situation. If you don't know terms used in these games, you should learn them.

Bettnachleger1 votes

A "Vayne is fed, be carefull" is enough. No need to say stuff like "Tristana fed Vayne". What ever, do what you like to do ;-) The wheather here, over the ocean, is waaay to good to argue. *prost

Linthe1 votes

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A "Vayne is fed, be carefull" is enough. No need to say stuff like "Tristana fed Vayne". What ever, do what you like to do ;-) The wheather here, over the ocean, is waaay to good to argue. *prost

Yea... Or the ping: XXX is warning everyone to back the F away from Vayne...

Love Bots1 votes

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A "Vayne is fed, be carefull" is enough. No need to say stuff like "Tristana fed Vayne".

^ A quick look at the board score is enough for people to tell who fed who, no need to point it out.

Erdrik2 votes

It can be discouraging to the player.

^This. HAXXORZ is correct. It is minor but still negative.

Please note: "Tristana fed Vayne." is entirely different from "Tristana sucks, and should uninstall because she fed Vayne."

You are correct that they are different. But the difference is in severity, not that one lacks negativity.

"Tristana fed Vayne." Is still discouraging to the player, and though minor is still negative.

On its own, or in isolation, it probably won't get you in too much trouble(if at all). But if you are saying it constantly, spamming it, or it is accompanied by other negative comments, then it will count against you.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Fed is a term used in MOBAs to refer to the act or position of getting a lot of kills or dying a lot so that one player has a significant advantage.

Stating that someone is fed, be it an enemy or an ally, is simply stating a part of the game. Just as if you were to say "Player X bought Thornmail." (Including if that player's lane opponent is a MAGE and that is the complete wrong item.)

Harassment that may accompany it is an offense, but talking about game state is not. You can be discouraged just as much by hearing that the enemy is at dragon if you're the jungler and nowhere near enough to contest it. It may be misconstrued as negative or offensive, but the phrase holds no hostility or even passive-aggressiveness _alone. _

Erdrik2 votes

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Fed is a term used in MOBAs to refer to the act or position of getting a lot of kills or dying a lot so that one player has a significant advantage.

Stating that someone is fed, be it an enemy or an ally, is simply stating a part of the game. Just as if you were to say "Player X bought Thornmail."

The problem is that while a fed player is a desirable situation, a player that has fed is not. By stating "Tristana fed Vayne.", you are pointing out that the Trist has failed or done something wrong.

It is discouraging to the Trist. Which as Ive said, is minor but still negative.

leaugesbane2 votes

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Feeding in one game doesn't make someone a bad player.

Likewise, just pointing that someone fed one of the enemies is not calling that person a bad player.

It's not negative attitude or verbal abuse. It's simply stating that in that current game champion X died to champion Y several times.

(It's the same as if you said an enemy fed your ally. If I'm wrong and the former is an offense, then so is the latter.)

Please note: "Tristana fed Vayne." is entirely different from "Tristana sucks, and should uninstall because she fed Vayne."

deaf ears my friend deaf ears.... while one game of feeding happens every so often when you play and have it more then one game it becomes toxic even if you have 5 different people over 5 games the fact that some one was unlucky enough to have so many feeders proves the system is a flawed and b its a poor argument to say one game doesn't make it toxic

for the record if you 0/10 with 20 assists you arent a feeder odds are you are a support and your team is bad. i feel your pain

Jaj2ed2 votes

Na, if you said that to me, it'd make me want to just leave the game or tilt me.

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

Then you have some issues that you need to get addressed.

Kurí1 votes

I had games when my teammates are so friendly and positive but there's the games when you just die once and it is over for them Even if you start getting kills your still a feeder or boosted They don't know what a bad game is, like if them have never had one People need to start being:

  1. More comprehensive
  2. More focused on what they are doing
  3. Less worried about what's the (''feeder/boosted/noob'') next move
  4. Be more positive and don't quit even if the game is going bad

If everyone follows those steps, League of Legends wouldn't be a place were you're scared of going back and play a simple game

Thanks

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