/All vs. /Team Reporting -- A Question For Riot

ModThe Djinn·11/6/2017, 8:09:15 PM·9 votes·833 views

Hey there!

I've seen quite a few cases recently where someone claims to have been punished for things said in team chat while in a 5-man queue, and I'd love it if a Rioter could elaborate on one part of the system that I'll admit I don't know the functionality of.

Namely this: if someone is reported by someone on the enemy team and only someone on the enemy team, is their team chat reviewed by the system? I can see both benefits and downsides to this, and I figure it would be good for the community to know in general, specifically for those 5-man groups who use League to communicate.

I'm also interested in the community's thoughts on this, and so have included a poll below.

29 Comments

BluEssenceFodder11/8/2017, 6:49:22 AM2 votes

Would be alot better having a constant in-game language filter to prevent aggressive behavior would work much better. All riot would have to do is update that filter with new offensive words every time they patch the game.

Either work with a dying community, or a healthy community, cant have both.

YoungFarmer11/6/2017, 8:47:30 PM1 votes

Although it would be annoying to be banned from that situation, considering I flame my premade buddies all the time and have never received a ban. I'm pretty sure anyone who has been banned in this situation has been toxic a multitude of times prior. In all honesty I am toxic often usually calling feeders bad etc and have never been banned, which leads me to believe you have to be incredibly toxic to actually deserve it. So despite being in a 5 man those who receive bans in those situations probably deserve it non the less.

Aryzyra11/6/2017, 10:37:04 PM1 votes

The way I see it, enforcement isn't _for _the person reporting. It's a check of a player's actions against the game standards. In that respect, it doesn't really matter what the person reporting saw. Or if the person reporting was offended or not. The only thing that matters is if the player being reviewed was behaving appropriately. There are a lot of options for banter that don't involve in-game chat. Finding a different medium would be the safe approach for a group of friends who want to say things that would not be acceptable under review.

Magical Player11/6/2017, 10:44:04 PM1 votes

I'm going to ramble probably not in any order Never say anything in /all chat, enemy reports you all the same, if you did nothing wrong then report is meaningless. So no harm done If you however were flaming and your team forgot to report you then the report is still valid since the user in question was still toxic. Even if a premade it shouldn't exclude you from the rules, this is promotes usage of those attitudes in game and eventually it won't be in a 5 man premade. The review system should review everything and make note of what is said as all chat vs what is not.

If the system has access to pre/post game logs then it only makes sense to give it full access to the chat.

"No harm no foul" maybe not directly since your team doesn't mind, but indirectly it's still promoting a problem

zPOOPz11/6/2017, 8:46:25 PM1 votes

Interesting dilemma. After giving it some thought, I believe you should only be punished (or reviewed) based on what people find toxic with what you said. If your 4 teammates have no problem with what you said in chat (by virtue of them not reporting you), you should not be judged by enemy blind/salt report for chat they cannot see. I believe in a no harm, no foul policy. If your other 4 teammates have no problem with what is said in team chat, you should be able to throw slurs if you want to without fear of punishment (obviously you need balls of steel to have faith none of your teammates will report you).

scazzman11/8/2017, 4:12:40 AM1 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/imytl2Qw-proposed-changes-to-the-mute-button?

TrulyBland11/8/2017, 4:38:45 AM1 votes

I've been wondering, too. I'm fairly certain it used to be that only chat visible to the person reporting was taken into account, and personally I believe that should (have) remain(ed) the case.

Sidenote: The poll is a bit confusing given the similarity of "all chat" and "/all chat". I guess the mistake in the i.e.-bracket doesn't really help either (I guess "Ally" should be "Enemy").

Kaptain Kuddles11/7/2017, 2:37:48 PM1 votes

Essentially, this question asks if Riot should necessitate a differentiation or at least a 'status' check on the lobby before the system reviews the chat logs. IF a player is grouped as 5 =/= check team chat, otherwise check all. I think in this specific instance that may be helpful. This would still leave groups of 2-4 susceptible to friendly banter that results in a ban because the other teammate or someone on the other team reports the player, possibly resulting in confusion as to how the system works which makes this post all the more pertinent.

If there is an easy way to differentiate between the different types of chat that exist within the game, then I don't see why Riot shouldn't implement such a fix. It still leaves a 5 man queue in a position to be reported if they decide to troll the other team but players can openly have some fun with their friends without having to worry about a false positive.