lack of punishment for griefing

KneeI·4/8/2019, 9:36:48 AM·136 votes·23,103 views

so i just got to plat 4 promos with a 75% winrate. at which point, my jungle ran down mid from min 1 then left, then my adc admitted to griefing, then my top and mid both inted and rage quit. 3 games in a row, 3 games lost due to blatant griefing, i was given a chat restriction for flaming them for losing my promos, but riot won't even do the courtesy of rewatching the games, instead leaving it all to an automated chat filter system. the smallest of indy companies at work

UPDATE: my mental has snapped and i have now griefed for several hours straight. people can admit to griefing in chat without being banned, i wonder if the same is true for the forums

106 Comments

Soul Dealer4/8/2019, 10:08:11 AM59 votes

The worse part is by trying so hard to ban toxic players riot makes more people grief and troll. Unfortunately the white knights and mods will come in here soon and defend riot but we will keep posting until riot listens.

RebeccaUCuber4/8/2019, 12:17:11 PM11 votes

same happened to me before... Even in Diamond, a Friend of mine said The level of play is so underwhelming! The problem is...this is not a lack of skill, but Just ppl that really dont want to play the game or don't even try To not die 15 times.

This griefers Just don't care about the game FROM START most of the times, and find The cheapest excuse to run It down, or more often, afk push.

Afk push never gets them punished but it's The exactly same thing as running it down in terms of game experience. You just have to not write anything in chat and you'll never be punished. And This is awful!

My "personal record" is one teamate Who wanted to ff and afk pushed from 3.30 Min... Not even 4 minutes...

Zardo4/8/2019, 12:14:02 PM7 votes

I'd say submit a support ticket, but that even doesn't work all the time.

General Esdeath 4/9/2019, 3:29:57 AM7 votes

I've said it before and I'll say it again;

Riot needs to bring back Tribunal and have video playback for reports of griefing. Automated system can stay for reports of hate speech but bring back Tribunal.

I don't care if that guy who inted in my game is banned 8 months later, as long as I know he's banned. Imagine saying the justice system is flawed because people are arrested months after their crime.

woodvsmurph4/9/2019, 12:26:23 AM7 votes

You know... I spent over 2 years explaining this exact type of thing with detailed EVIDENCE and got nothing but grief from the boards. I could still be playing despite having gotten chat restricted a couple times for losing my temper over seeing that type of crap over and over and nothing being done about it, but I'm done with it.

I applaud anyone who will still fight for the idea that Riot needs to step up to the plate and actually start dealing with griefing instead of excusing it. I'm happy to see that for once the boards are upvoting such a post rather than spam downvoting and writing mindless stupid replies that show they didn't even bother reading half of what you wrote like I've faced for over 2 years campaigning to fix this issue.

But until I see meaningful improvement in the way they treat players and the way they deal with griefing, I refuse to play anymore. Sad because I just found an irl friend who actually plays lol about a year ago, but playing the game even just for fun with them suggest that I support their horrible lazy policy in regards to griefing and their overly harsh policy towards "toxicity" which can be muted. Funny how toxicity of griefing which cannot be muted is not only ignored, but outright defended and excused by Riot while anything explicit in chat gets brought to the gallows even if it was deserved based on what was done and said to the player who snapped from being repeatedly abused both in chat and by gameplay such as your griefing teammates.

Best of luck to you, but I don't see anything changing any time soon.

KirbyCake4/9/2019, 6:45:48 PM6 votes

Hard inting is perfectly fine by riots standard as long as it isn't on a famous stream.

However, gl flaming your teammates once and getting a chat restriction.

Ph03n1xb1rd4/9/2019, 3:44:44 PM5 votes

What the heck happened on the Boards in the last 5 months?

5 months ago a post like this would be flooded with "just a bad game", "if you cant carry you don't deserve to win" etc...

Did the general view on this issue change, or this is just a lucky post? :D Maybe if the opinion of the community shifts, Rito might start to do something with this problem O.o Is it time to come back to the game? :O

Anyway, just so you can feel what it was some time ago:

It wAs jUsT A BaD GaMe fOr tHeM
GeT BeTtEr aNd cArRy tHeM
ThE EnEmY HaS TrOlLs tOo, I DoN'T SeE YoU CoMpLaInInG WhEn yOu gEt tHe fReE Lp
yOu cAnT PuNiSh pLaYeRs fOr pLaYiNg bAd
iT'S HaRd tO DeTeCt
yOu aRe sTiLl nOt aLlOwEd tO FlAmE, sInCe tHaT RuInS ThE GaMe, EvEn mOrE ThAn tRoLlS

Sugarlicious4/8/2019, 3:22:16 PM5 votes

Upvote so hard. It hurts so much seeing your games ruined by kids and knowing that no matter what you do, the chances are that they won't be punished. Heck, I'd rather have a manual review system that takes a month to go through a report but actually does something about it than this system that gives you a false feeling of doing something when everybody knows it does nothing.

Galaxyburstz4/8/2019, 5:07:09 PM3 votes

Can I, the 800 cs at 60 minutes Yasuo carry the 2 / 34 Shyvana who didn't get her lane?

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3016197169/242976320?tab=overview

Did I get instant feedback? No

FOR JUSTICE4/8/2019, 2:07:55 PM3 votes

bro, same here. if you dont have some kind of major boards posts and then linking it in your support ticket, riot wont do a thing.

literally had an someone admit:

"oh im running it down" "btw"

still playing a week later. here was the game: https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3011449187/233787954?tab=overview

and i know its ignored unless you get mass upvoted cause the first guy i ever reported for inting was a cho gath, had been playing for two weeks after the fact. it wasn't until i linked my post to the very same rioter. he was then "suddenly" banned for 14 days.

marchezee4/8/2019, 3:02:14 PM3 votes

First game today.

My jungle legit said he was trying lower his mmr.

He got a kill tho so nothing will happen probably.

I feel u

Vreivai4/9/2019, 1:05:49 AM3 votes

Can't put that revenue into hiring and training more moderators, gotta put that into researching new ways to charge $100 for something in a way that won't piss the entire playerbase off and run a 100% automated moderation system instead.

Destaice4/8/2019, 8:40:48 PM2 votes

Flaming isn't allowed regardless of the situation.

Griefing has to be investigated which takes time.

You are part of the problem.

Starcraft243ver4/8/2019, 3:44:42 PM1 votes

So you flammed your toplaner, he went AFK, and then you went afk as well ? https://i.imgur.com/QHUoJdL.png

DerankingInter4/10/2019, 12:45:37 AM1 votes

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so i just got to plat 4 promos with a 75% winrate. at which point, my jungle ran down mid from min 1 then left, then my adc admitted to griefing, then my top and mid both inted and rage quit. 3 games in a row, 3 games lost due to blatant griefing, i was given a chat restriction for flaming them for losing my promos, but riot won't even do the courtesy of rewatching the games, instead leaving it all to an automated chat filter system. the smallest of indy companies at work

UPDATE: my mental has snapped and i have now griefed for several hours straight. people can admit to griefing in chat without being banned, i wonder if the same is true for the forums

I don't believe this is likely, I almost never see griefing or toxicity so unless you want to show the game i'm gonna assume you are just pulling our legs. The idea that you got matched with 4 people who inted while you lost Your promos seems a little bit sus ;)