What if Riot gave offensive players the chance to apologize to the people that reported them?

Helium Cube·10/15/2016, 7:54:18 PM·13 votes·1,502 views

I'm not talking about cases where you tell someone that they shouldn't be buying atk spd and modifiers before they buy dmg first, and they report you for toxic. I mean in cases where we generally become toxic and slip up, and flame someone. And when the report is "verified" by Riot. I was just curious, because alot of times I get tilted off of a buncha games and end up snapping in a game with a fresh team and they had nothing to do with my frustation.

Those situations, I'd like to have the option to send those people a short single sentence message saying sorry. There's alot of toxic people in this game, jnglers that refuse to gank your lane, mid laner's that roam top or bot to bait you into a team fight just to run off. Supports stealing gold to spite the adc, and adc leave bot lane whenever the support or jungler gets a kill. There's also just as many nice and kind players and its those that have nothing to do with the toxicity that I'd like to express remorse to flaming or yelling at.

Ideas?

41 Comments

ModUlanopo10/16/2016, 7:07:54 PM5 votes

http://imgur.com/ylpM1kP

I know it sounds trite, but the best way to apologize is to change your behavior and help make the community better.

You even say yourself:

"I get tilted off of a buncha games and end up snapping in a game with a fresh team and they had nothing to do with my frustration."

Perhaps, if you try to recognize when you are on tilt, you might avoid these situations and avoid having to apologize altogether. In my experience, people on tilt also tend to make more mistakes, so you might see an improvement in your play, as well.

Astôlfo10/15/2016, 7:55:09 PM4 votes

Sure, but it wouldn't/shouldn't change the punishment received.

themachamp10/16/2016, 9:26:50 AM4 votes

If you get nothing for it....why would anyone apologize in league?

MrNhbdy10/15/2016, 9:17:36 PM3 votes

How do I know your being sincere? Is there a font for that? This just would be used to lessen a punishment for a person who truly gives zero cares for the people they harass. If you fairly get reported for being toxic and are punished then take the repercussions of your actions like a OG. Reform and be less toxic.

Hero To Villain10/16/2016, 7:32:33 PM3 votes

Omg! I was permabanned over six months ago and I had recently just apologized to all the players for the one game I was banned for.

Morality Coach10/15/2016, 10:24:38 PM3 votes

I don't want some toxic kid contacting me after games, lol.

If you were sorry you wouldn't do it. Apologies are always meaningless.

MagicFlyingLlama10/15/2016, 8:30:23 PM3 votes

I cant tell if this is youtube heros level troll, or if it is really not obvious what would happen..

Shadòw10/15/2016, 8:02:19 PM3 votes

"Hey i wanted to say sorry for last game"

"np m8 it's k"

"jk suck my dick LUL"

"..."

rtbf7610927110/16/2016, 8:38:13 PM2 votes

The average apology:

"fuck you %%%got got me banned kys"

I'm sure exclusively nice things would be sent..

Chicken Rave10/16/2016, 5:31:13 PM2 votes

I think 80% of the times people would use this tool would be to take one last jab at those who reported them. I estimate the rate of "kys" in these messages as pretty high. But in order to not penalize people for a bad attitude, I think defeats because an ally intentionally fed or left should be canceled, preferably with the LP loss canceled as well. That should also encourage people to signal it instead of just getting back in queue immediately.

Zelorxon10/16/2016, 7:35:36 PM2 votes

jnglers that refuse to gank your lane

Alright...

From: Junglers

To: Laners and Inexperienced Junglers

-The role of a jungler is to: farm the jungle and apply map pressure, his job is to control the map, secure objectives and give support to the lanes, HE IS NOT THERE TO WIN YOUR LANE, if you're bad, there is no amount of ganks that will save you. A good jungler knows which lane gank, the powerspike of the single champions, when they're weak, when they're strong and when they're vulnerable or not to ganks, also they know when and how a laner can assist in a gank making it possible, sometimes junglers can cause a small skirmish just to lift some pressure from you. When a lane is losing, or worse, it's getting crushed something like 0/4/1 a) the jungler SHOULD NOT gank that lane, because it means that at best he won't be able to do anything, at worst he will simply die and/or bait the laner into death b) the laner should itemize accordingly, freezing a lane is allowed only pre level 7 or when there's no objective to contest, otherwise you should itemize for waveclear and/or defenses if you're not a carry (but in that case you're kinda screwed because a carry that doesn't do damage won't go much far) and ROAM, this means, ganking bot, roaming to other lanes to help them push and take turrets, call for fights when you have number advantage OR if there is someone strong enough to save him he should setup the gank/roam (let's say mid and jungle are coming to gank a top lane that already lost a turret and can't push back)

These are just general advices that apply on most situations but the most important message of all is THE JUNGLER IS NOT THERE TO WIN YOUR LANE, if you can't contain the bleeding of your lane it's your problem, the jungler is there to help, not to spoonfeed you your lane.

Feel free to spread this message, i thought it was obsolete in season 3 but apparently i'm wrong.

CrazyBear198710/18/2016, 8:27:31 AM1 votes

Actions speak louder than words, if you are truly reformed or seen the error of your ways, then you wouldn't need to apologies. Be better, stay good, continue on the path that doesn't get you banned.

Best Kog NA10/15/2016, 7:57:25 PM1 votes

Sadly some players would then know who reported them and would most likely be even more toxic targeted at that one person.

Ada Wong10/15/2016, 9:06:51 PM1 votes

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I'm not talking about cases where you tell someone that they shouldn't be buying atk spd and modifiers before they buy dmg first, and they report you for toxic. I mean in cases where we generally become toxic and slip up, and flame someone. And when the report is "verified" by Riot. I was just curious, because alot of times I get tilted off of a buncha games and end up snapping in a game with a fresh team and they had nothing to do with my frustation.

Those situations, I'd like to have the option to send those people a short single sentence message saying sorry. There's alot of toxic people in this game, jnglers that refuse to gank your lane, mid laner's that roam top or bot to bait you into a team fight just to run off. Supports stealing gold to spite the adc, and adc leave bot lane whenever the support or jungler gets a kill. There's also just as many nice and kind players and its those that have nothing to do with the toxicity that I'd like to express remorse to flaming or yelling at.

Ideas?

Honestly perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea then people would understand why the hell I report them, (Perhaps delay the time) if anonmity is a must by a few days or at least 5 games played) before showing it, but show the reported players the reason why they were reported with the description...

Today I was top I had the lane phase going well and as usual everyone else starts feeding, but my own "Jungler" ran in multiple times got the enemy ahead and intentionally made the game and lane unplayable for me trolling asked em why and they never answered players were going to keep flamming and arguing chat so I type /mute all and let the game end whatever...

Its people like this who honestly really piss me off like They make a mistake the first time going after wrong guy and get killed okay, but coming in with repeated attempts after is obviously trolling putting the enemy ahead a game that could have at least been more fun for my team if this guy wasnt upsetting me and trolling the game.

EazyMakaveli210/16/2016, 2:51:38 AM1 votes

There is an easier solution. No punishments for flaming, a bigger mute button.

Mister Punches10/16/2016, 4:07:46 AM1 votes

Call me cynical, but I don't have any faith in any one person in this community offering a sincere form of apology towards someone they were toxic towards. From my experience in the community, if someone is toxic towards another person, they aren't going to say "sorry" in a genuine form. Chances are, if they say "sorry" in some way, it's going to easily be passive aggressive and condescending, rather than genuine.

I've had people call me all sorts of things that they would never say in front of their parents, and one that especially hits me on a personal level are insults that involve insults involving one's mental capacity (e.g. someone calling me autistic, retarded, etc.). As a result, I've been conditioned by the community to think every single person in this community is toxic and that the only way that I will believe that a person is not toxic in this community is if they prove that they are not toxic (basically, the guilty until proven innocent mental thinking). I also tend to block people who are toxic in postgame chat after reporting them, so I still wouldn't be able to see their "apology" if that is the case.

Pretty much, I don't have any faith in this community to be decent human beings after they were complete jerks just seconds, or minutes before they got reported. I think this saying "sorry" in a message would only harm the community more than help it, since it would instill a "I'm sorry I got caught being toxic" attitude, where apologies would be empty.

I also share the same sentiment as Nep2une, where Riot wouldn't/shouldn't change the punishment received.