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Toxicity towards passive gameplay?

Soulstealer Nami·2/16/2018, 1:09:44 AM·5 votes·550 views

Something I've noticed recently is an increase of hostile and toxic behavior from players I lane with when I choose to support more passively during the lane phase. Just got out of a game playing Nami support with a Tristana ADC into an Ezreal/Ekko bot. It was blind pick so at first I wasn't sure if it was Ekko or Xerath support, and decided to take Ancient Coin instead of Spellthief's anyway just to be safe because both picks can be oppressive and hard to trade with. I knew Ekko was going to try catch and burst us down. After seeing Trist taken down to a quarter HP after overextending a bit in lane, I played back and healed Trist, tried to reserve mana, and had bubble ready in case they tried to all in. We really couldn't fight them early, but I knew we'd scale better so I suggested be just play passive and farm. This is where Trist blew up on me. Basically called me useless and said it was like playing with a bot. She continued to harass me into the mid-game until she eventually just stopped talking. I didn't really reply at all because I've dealt with these types of players before and usually nothing really helps the situation. I just ended up roaming and helped out the team. We ended up winning the game because we scaled up. I landed some important ults and stuns, and kept our Nidalee alive in clutch situations more than a couple times (Which she seemed very thankful for). I know I wasn't useless but our Tristana didn't seem to agree.

https://imgur.com/a/nKvSO

A few games prior I had a Vayne who also blew up on me for 'not being agressive enough'. The difference is that this game I had been poking and landing many offensive bubbles. She just insisted on pushing wave to the enemy tower and then trying to fight. She the proceeded to harass me because I, a squishy support, wouldn't try to trade with the enemies under tower at level 4.

I don't really understand the need to be overaggressive all the time. Sometimes farming and waiting to scale really IS the best option. There is nothing wrong with playing passively. More of a rant than anything, but if someone could offer some feedback as to why some players are like this it'd be great, I just don't understand the mentality.

12 Comments

Anastaecia2/16/2018, 2:14:40 AM5 votes

I think it's because of the snowball meta. They figure that if you don't get an early lead (by being aggressive) that you wont win. Lately, I have actually had more long, comeback games. Yea, the new runes started out snowbally because it was new and no one knew what to do, but I think it's leveling out some.

This is really no diff than any other time. Some ADCs just go into games with a chip on their shoulder it seems and are just waiting to go off on the supp.

colonel cranc2/16/2018, 12:19:38 PM2 votes

speaking from a bronz support perspective, ist because people dont realise that 1 kill = 20 or so minions. i gave that pretty much thought when i think about it. i belive ist because beeing passive and farm they feel useless. i played a lot of janna for example and in the beginning i also felt like i did nothing because i was used to the poke of nameme or morg. but as the first gank came and my Tornado and shield safed the adc i didnt feel as useless. but back to the view of the adc: here in bronz, people FARLY over and underestimate the power of their own champ and the enemy champ. example: i played braum + vayne vs. xerath + caith. i know that vayne is relatively weak early on and played passive. they had a pretty pokey comp and i made sure as best of my abilities to shield the bullets and stuff they trew at vayne timm she was lv 4 an they still lv3 and tought that she is strong enough to 1v2 them, while i was warding. ofc it was my fault then. but /muteall is my greatest ally.

back to the point tho. another reason i think that people want to Play aggressive is, that kills look better in their matchhistory than a firsttower or 1000 cs.

but im just a bronzie my opinion means shit

get me out of here now

FocusTheTowers2/16/2018, 2:01:29 PM2 votes

From an ADC perspective, it is a difference between being passive and being afraid/not knowing when to be aggressive. League is a series of farming and trading. If you're scared to trade and your ADC is consistently getting poked down because you are not positioning correctly at the proper times.