Team surrenders at 20 because of one lost teamfight... Report?

Zero Shingetsu·12/3/2018, 11:57:13 PM·2 votes·2,236 views

There is a report for "Giving up". There is a report for "Giving up". There is a report for "Giving up".

I just want to make that abundantly clear. The very first report option includes "giving up" as a reason for reporting.

Now, the surrender function is ostensibly for unfortunate circumstances, correct? You're 4v5, or you're down 40-2 and you all just want to get on with your lives, but your opponents are deliberately not ending it. I can see why surrender exists.

But shouldn't almost every single surrender I see constitute grounds for a report? Because most surrenders I see are in circumstances such as...

  • We're down 20-9 at 13 minutes, towers even.

  • We're down 30-12 at 15 minutes, but they haven't taken any towers and we've taken all the outers.

  • The game is fairly even but the other four players aren't dominating like they want to be.

  • Two teams are matched 8-10. The team with 10 kills loses a teamfight just after 20 minutes, putting them down 13-10, and they immediately surrender 4-1. No, this literally happened to me yesterday.

So... I mean isn't that giving up? I'm pretty sure the definition of giving up is just throwing up your hands and letting yourself lose because you're too lazy or weak-willed to man up and churn the butter.

From now on, I'm reporting every teammate who surrenders when we have even a remote chance of winning.

CLARIFICATION: Obviously, I'm referring to such games as generally follow early comments of "gg we lose" and the like. I do not mean to say that surrendering is in and of itself bannable, but that the attitude surrounding most every surrender I've seen is generally defeatist and morale-killing.

(Also, this amount of downvotes in response to a post about a team quitting on teammates who still want to try winning a very winnable game is yet another reason this game is no longer worth my time. Good heavens are you guys a nihilistic lot.)

19 Comments

SUPERSATANA12/4/2018, 12:02:59 AM8 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VuzA8MZG,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-03T23:57:13.473+0000)

There is a report for "Giving up". There is a report for "Giving up". There is a report for "Giving up".

Except the "giving up" meant by that system is NOT "voting surrender" [REMOVED BY MODERATION - ULANOPO]

For "giving up" Riot mean stuff like "ok gg open mid" or "surrender or I'll afk" etc etc: actually sabotaging the game cause you think is over, not simply "try to surrender". Hence the rest of your thread is void, cause the premise is false.

Umbral Regent12/4/2018, 12:35:02 AM7 votes

Team surrenders at 20 because of one lost teamfight... Report?

There is a report for "Giving up". There is a report for "Giving up". There is a report for "Giving up".

Since apparently you have some misinformation here, let's clear that up.

The report option is titled Negative Attitude, and the description reads "Griefing, Giving up, etc." - which means the "Giving up" it's referring to is defeatist attitude, and not using the Surrender Feature.

It's not against the rules to Surrender. You may not like people Surrendering, but when 4/5 people agree, you can only bite the bullet and queue up again.

You can report anyone and everyone who you suspect voted "yes" on a Surrender vote, but if the only thing they did was vote "yes" on a Surrender vote, then all of your reports will be tossed aside. As asinine as it sounds at first blush, Surrendering =/= Giving up.

Namîste12/4/2018, 12:02:44 AM6 votes

you do know that the report will do absolutely nothing right? Secondly https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2923887321/40566217?tab=overview

You're team was 10k behind in gold. Hec was HUGE. You did absolutely no damage at all. I would have clicked the agree to surrender button too

Jo0o12/4/2018, 1:03:54 AM2 votes

Honestly, I think the surrender function is a mistake and should be removed. That's a losing argument for another time, though.

As-is, we've all signed on to play under these surrender rules, for better or for worse. You're not gonna get somebody banned for doing it. "Giving up" is when you soft-int, AFK, or make a concerted effort to ruin morale. It isn't using the surrender function.

Snarf of thunder12/5/2018, 1:02:46 AM1 votes

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