Lilin's sexual harassment thread - puke worthy responses

TruckFump2016·1/26/2016, 3:11:39 AM·6 votes·3,424 views

The Great and Assembled wisdom of the NA Boards.

  1. If you have added someone to your friends list, you are responsible for anything they say to you, and they can (and will) say anything, which then becomes your fault, because you added them to your friends list. If you didn't want to be propositioned or asked sexual questions, you would not have added them to your friends list.
  2. Sexual harassment only exists in the workplace or a social setting (because interacting with people on the internet is not social)
  3. Woman do not deserve any sort of respect or special consideration. It is just as hard to be a guy online as be a girl (LOLWUT)
  4. If girls don't want to receive sexual messages, they should hide the fact that they are a girl. (YES! Stop shooting your estrogen at everyone)
  5. Asking to "see tits in a non-threatening way" is not, by nature, threatening or has the ability to cause any sort of mental or emotional distress. (You would have no problem with people making these kind of comments to your little sister. It is non-threatening chat)

Thank you board users for opening my mind about your great and profound wisdom.

Sad state of affairs when a girl just wants to go online without being harassed, propositioned, or sexualized and gets a bunch of blowback and crap for saying so.

78 Comments

LF Annie1/26/2016, 3:28:39 AM10 votes

this guy acts like he understands anything.

  1. the Post in question was posted by someone who recieved a single message from person on her contct list sking the question "do you msterbte?"
  2. she immeditely bnned sid plyer.
  3. she then jumped to the conclusion of wht he MIGHT HVE SAID.
  4. THEN she asked for report system so riot can track players because she feels they are sexual offenders.
  5. Finally, she posted multiple times the definition of sexual harassment,

[{quoted}](name=Lilin Cat,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wPoWeegf,comment-id=00020000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-24T00:47:41.307+0000)

sex·u·al ha·rass·ment noun harassment (typically of a woman) in a workplace, or other professional or social situation, involving the making of unwanted sexual advances or obscene remarks.

Weathered1/26/2016, 3:25:51 AM6 votes
  1. Yes
  2. Um, I guess
  3. Ya thats not true... and I'm a guy.
  4. Yes but not said very well.
  5. Are you trying to say that if someone says "do I mind if I see your tits?" its not threatening? Would you go up to someone in real life and do that? Probably not, because you'd get smacked in the face.

I don't agree with Lilan's post, but the way you made yours doesn't do that much for trying to back the other side. Girls get a lot more shit online because its anonymous, and therefore people can be a perv and no one knows who they are. Being a perv to a guy is different, cause the guy can just say something vulgar and block him/her. End of story. People will hunt down girls though, because guys get hella thirsty. I'm not saying you have to address girls as "m'lady" and go out of your way to help them, but you should at least have a little more respect when it comes to talking and have the decency not to ask for nudes or something from anyone, guy or girl :/

warpenguin5551/26/2016, 3:31:50 AM5 votes
Mcprowlington1/26/2016, 3:51:24 AM5 votes

Can we just let this die?

Or maybe we can turn this into a thread about if and how we masturbate, since that's the question she was so incredibly offended by and so positive that if a male was asked that there'd be an uproar.

Sarutobi1/26/2016, 6:24:22 AM4 votes

Not trying to sound rude but why do people think League of Legends is the only problem with this? This has been happening for years. This is no different than any other online game. And while its not right for anyone to be treated like this, you can take step to prevent this. First off no one should be adding people on their friends list if you dont even know them. Thats just common sense. One thing i really dislike about this post is how it seems to only pertain to females, when majority of the time ive been playing games they usually get praised, or helped out more. Whereas if a Male is seen playing a game he is called all kinds of derogatory terms especially when they are playing badly. Harassment happens to everyone, doesnt matter the gender, ages, nationality of the person. You want to stop harassment? Just dont acknowledge these people. If someone is harassing you report them, take screenshots, and make sure when you report that you leave detailed information about it or when you contact support. If people on your friends list are doing this delete them.

Sniper 01/26/2016, 3:26:45 AM3 votes

It's kinda like saying "If she didn't wanna be raped, she shouldn't have dressed like that".... [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Straw Hat Loki1/26/2016, 12:04:36 PM2 votes

w/o context, I can see why you would be upset at these points; they are utter trash.

I know almost all of the girls I have played w/ get asked whether they can share selfies or nudes even. I have seen some of the chat messages they get from seemingly normal people and it is disturbing HOWEVER, all of these were by teenagers in their early teens asking for pictures and what not. If an adult knows that the age of the girl before them is very young and then proceeds to ask them for nudes then you know you might have a pedophile at hand; teens asking other teens for nudes is fairly common as far as I have seen in the last year in LoL.

Of course, adding someone on your friends list doesn't make you responsible for what trash is being thrown at you. Often times people add after they noticed a player who was very positive in their last game and after the ice is broken b/w them, things like these come out. Possible entirely and not the fault of person adding; just remove them and move on. I don't think young children really interacting asking for selfies is threatening; like I said, if an adult seeks these out from these kids then you have a creeper but even they can be blocked. It is not your fault for adding them. They asked, you removed them from your friends list; move on. No harm done.

The second point is also ridiculous; sexual harassment is not limited to just what you listed as others having posted but again I think the doubt arose about whether there was any sexual harassment. From what I seem to gather, there didn't seem to be any as she immediately just blocked him after he asked about her sexual practices. Was it appropriate? Nope. Was it threatening and/or bordering harassment? Nah. He asked, she said no, and both moved on. Done.

I'm going to stay away from the topic of respect for women versus men. That's just playing with fire.

Of course no one should have to hide their sex ideally. Although if you already know and have seen "harassment" based off of your sex, then do not disclose it to others; that is a good way to get by. It isn't ideal but it is something you can use to not get bothered yourself. Only reveal it to those you have gauged for a while in your friends list? Point being sex definitely should not be a basis of harassment but while that ideal world is, hopefully, on its way, just be careful in who you reveal your sex to.

I am sure most people would not be okay w/ an adult for asking sexual pictures off of a little girl. If it was another young one asking for pictures b/c of whatever reason, then you assess the matter wrt it being threatening or nearing harassment or demeaning etc.

I am sure most people would say these points are nonsense just as you concluded; I think the reason it was such a back and forth discussion was b/c people differed on whether there truly was enough substance to merit sexual harassment in the original post. I personally think if she had made it clear she was not open to such questions and still they were directed her way, then yes it is sexual harassment and deserves penalties by Riot. From what it appears, it was a single question from most probably a virgin boy and he got what he deserved: she blocked him and shut him out.

Best of luck to you and the girl who posted this originally as well. I totally see and understand your point of the internet not being as easy for women.

You should check this link on YT out by the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCLi6vSIuPE

I hope posting links is NOT an offense; I'm still new here.

Jorencice1/26/2016, 3:32:02 AM2 votes

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The Great and Assembled wisdom of the NA Boards.

  1. If you have added someone to your friends list, you are responsible for anything they say to you, and they can (and will) say anything, which then becomes your fault, because you added them to your friends list. If you didn't want to be propositioned or asked sexual questions, you would not have added them to your friends list.
  2. Sexual harassment only exists in the workplace or a social setting (because interacting with people on the internet is not social)
  3. Woman do not deserve any sort of respect or special consideration. It is just as hard to be a guy online as be a girl (LOLWUT)
  4. If girls don't want to receive sexual messages, they should hide the fact that they are a girl. (YES! Stop shooting your estrogen at everyone)
  5. Asking to "see tits in a non-threatening way" is not, by nature, threatening or has the ability to cause any sort of mental or emotional distress. (You would have no problem with people making these kind of comments to your little sister. It is non-threatening chat)

Thank you board users for opening my mind about your great and profound wisdom.

Sad state of affairs when a girl just wants to go online without being harassed, propositioned, or sexualized and gets a bunch of blowback and crap for saying so.

For number 5.

If my sister is over the age of 18. Sure proposition her all you want.

Ranger Azereth1/26/2016, 3:35:19 AM2 votes
  1. Yeah, it's your responsibility to some extent. Person asking is a jerk but you can have the same interaction in a circle of friends. 2.No 3.Women deserve respect just as much as anyone else, but not any more than anyone else either. 4.You shouldn't have to hide that. 5.I wouldn't consider it threatening, but it is crash as all hell to pull out of the blue on anyone and the person should be ashamed of themselves for behaving in such a way. If I had a sister and they said it I'd be "Seriously, you told them off and then ignored them right?" I wouldn't go and confront them unless it then happened again. That's when I would consider it threatening.
DREADN0UGHT1/26/2016, 3:38:37 AM2 votes

I don't why you are making a big story with all of this. This is the god damn internet. People don't have filters. You have the option to mute them. You can report them. What are you expecting? For the whole online society to magically become politically correct? Jesus, are you that dumb?

I understanding it can be frustrating, but everyone gets offended on the internet. EVERYONE has that one thing they hate seeing. See I'm a french-canadian. I get called all sorts of things when I mention that to some Canadians. And that is fine, i just ignore it.

Not everybody is on the same level. Get the fuck over it. Its not that hard.