Im trying to become less toxic, but how?

Drekken·1/17/2018, 8:44:37 AM·7 votes·4,056 views

Hello everyone, i was recently unbanned for 2 weeks, which really opened my eyes to see that i may be on the track to a perma. I really want to improve my behavior but i just cant seem to change. Does anyone have any ideas that can help me to stop being a negative and toxic player?

Thanks

29 Comments

RiotRiot Tantram1/19/2018, 1:30:28 AM15 votes
  1. Play with friends. Games are a lot less stressful with friends, and you can help keep each other on track. If you're frustrated, vent to them.
  2. Be positive from the beginning. If you are a positive person, people are a lot less likely to harass you if you do poorly, sending you into negativity.
  3. Go into the game understanding that at your optimal rating you will always lose 1/2 you games. Losing is expected.
  4. Focus on what YOU can do better. After every game, think about where you can improve, even if you did really well. We can all improve, even pro players.
  5. Mute those that are negative. Don't get baited into a fight.
  6. Take a break when tilted. Even if it is to play an ARAM.
  7. Find a fun champion at every role. That way when you get auto-filled you can still have fun.
  8. Understand that any game is winnable. Different teams have different strengths, and late game teams take awhile to power up. They will usually lose early game. I always wonder why negative people will say 'gg @ 15' when I'm farming up on Vayne. They soon learn to trust.
Oxyrotten1/19/2018, 1:16:13 AM3 votes

Try playing with a duo que or someone on voice chat. That way you can vent and respond to people's bullshit without having to type it out in chat and get banned or tilt your team.

I'm not saying to flame people to their face in chat, but telling a friend about how bad your team is can help get it out of your system, also it reinforces the idea that it's not worth the effort to bitch to the bads directly.

MachstDuBierHase1/17/2018, 9:25:39 AM2 votes

start /fullmute all; its the best way to go in.

second, expect nothing from your teammates and everything from your opponents! Your teammates will be the worst toxic players you can imagine and your opponents will be the cheating lowbobs they mostly are.

  • If you dont see a ward anywhere ; dont go into that area

  • If you chase an enemy, dont expect your teammates to follow; if its unwareded, see above - dont go in

  • don not relay on your teammates to kill the champion, go for the killsteal if you have to or run

  • buy 2 pink wards at any given time, so you can replace the one you might have put or lost.

If you expect less from the match you'll be much happier. Except your teammates to be toxic and feeding and anticpate it - then you might rage less

For any blue who finds my words offensive, get a tissue and a reality.check

Sairek Ceareste1/17/2018, 5:10:49 PM2 votes

I don't vent often, but League is League, so there are times during a frustrating match when I need to vent.

Instead of venting in chat, I just vent out loud. Then after I hear myself and realize how I myself, am acting, I usually feel more embarrassed than angry and promptly shut up and go back to playing.

Just... make sure nobody else is around to hear you.

On top of all that, try to loosen up a little. League is meant to be a game. So have fun with it. If you need to, play some of the more casual, quicker game modes with the aim to have fun instead of just trying to win like nothing else matters.

ARAM is fun with being able to build off-meta item choices, especially with friends. Lich Bane AP-tank Anivia with Dark Harvest was quite an interesting one for me that actually did really well in the two games in a row that I got her.

Ph03n1xb1rd1/17/2018, 9:13:54 PM2 votes

Ye, stop playing LoL and go to Dota2. You will be still toxic but it doesn't matter bc they know how to handle toxic players not like Rito....

Telephone Booth1/18/2018, 8:00:37 AM2 votes

Listen man... forget all this psychological shit. It's a conscious choice you make at the time. It's on you. You're always gonna have that anger and frustration... there is no miracle cure. It's just now when you get mad, you know your account could be permabanned if you start insulting people. So just don't do it.

It's like quitting smoking... You always want a cigarette and you have to make the decision not to have one. It's fucking hard. Luckily, choosing not to type some words in a video game, is MUCH MUCH easier.

So just remember you could get permabanned and now make the decision to NOT type toxic shit in game. There is no trick. You make the effort. And really man, it's fucking easy once you realize that other people don't really matter to you whatsoever, at least strangers in an online video game. They aren't gonna stop playing just cuz you flamed them. Stop trying to have an impact on them, no one really cares what you think when they're playing a game of leisure. And the fact you're asking people how to not be toxic makes you look like a giant pussy btw. Man up and do what you have to do. Get permabanned or don't.. It's on you.

This is just tough love buddy. xD

God Went MIA1/18/2018, 11:58:48 PM2 votes

Don't play a game where it's equally your fault for losing as the 0/20 bot lane. They act like people have normal reactions to something their passionate about is the problem, ignoring the fact that their absolutely terrible MMR system and balancing is.

Make sure you don't tell someone to stop feeding, you'll get a ban. But go 0/10, that's fine. Same LP loss as the rest of your team.

Lord of Math1/19/2018, 1:23:28 AM2 votes

Play Bard , even when you feed he is a blast.

Dehitay1/17/2018, 4:30:19 PM1 votes

The best way I've found to avoid toxicity in game is to have somebody to audibly vent to. Streaming so you can rage to viewers might help, but it's more helpful if you can hear that person back so I suggest finding people in a discord.

FullmuteAll play1/19/2018, 1:21:49 AM1 votes

/muteall

somebody spams useless pings ?

mute his pings

That's it. And as you are on thin ice, try not to feed and not to do any insulting actions in game (e.g stealing laners' farm, if you are jungler) , as they still can report you, regardless your behavior in chat.

But I am not good advisor here, as I am actually more the guy, who reports, than one who gets reported.

Konotaa1/27/2018, 9:05:50 PM1 votes

i had the same problem, nowadays i scream my agressions out but dont flame my team in chat.

HalcyonDweller1/17/2018, 9:16:25 PM1 votes

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Ok for advice I've got a few things. A lot of it is written out in the post linked below, but I'll elaborate a bunch and add a few points in my comment here as well.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/bv2m7fx4-feeders-and-toxic-teammates-got-you-down-this-may-help

Warning: Wall of text incoming. It's a lot to read, but trust me it's all useful techniques that I've used to great effect in my own games. It's worth your time if you are willing to read through it all.


1. On avoiding getting banned:

You don't want to get banned obviously, so first and foremost you should avoid being negative, passive aggressive, or insulting in any way from this point on. A good rule of thumb is this: If you wouldn't say it loudly to somebody in a public place in front of someone who's respect you hold dear, it's probably not something you should say to a stranger over the internet. Or alternatively, If you would be upset if a teammate said it to you when your situations were reversed, then you shouldn't say it to a teammate. Avoid being sarcastic, or saying anything to blame teammates.

Generally speaking, anything that you say that might anger your teammate is something that could make them report you. Whether or not their report for that statement is justified, if it triggers the IFS to review your behavior and the IFS finds something else that you said in that game that it thinks is punishable, it's going to punish you for the second thing even if the person reported you for something else.

Keep in mind that after a 14-day ban you're going to be on super thin ice. Even minor negativity may be enough to trigger another punishment, and unfortunately (and in this case, unfairly in my opinion) for you, the next punishment in the progression is a permanent ban. If you are not absolutely certain that you can talk to irritating teammates without saying something punishable, then it is better to not talk to those types of teammates at all. Mute them and don't even acknowledge what they say. You can safely report them yourself after the game and leave it in Riot's hands to deal with them.

After several months of consistently honorable (or otherwise positive) behavior, your account standing should improve and that 'thin-ice' and danger of being permabanned will loom over you much less.


2. On using past, present, and future tense to better steer discussions in a positive direction:

It especially helps to steer conversations into the future tense. reasons being this:

  • The past tense is often used for assigning blame
  • the present tense is often used for discussing values
  • and the future tense is often used for making choices or decisions in the future.

This is a subtle twist of language that a lot of people don't realize affects their discussions with others, and they react to it on a subconscious level.

For example, picture this happening in one of your games. Person A just died to a gank because they pushed up too far and didn't ward. Here we will look at the outcomes of using different verb tenses to discuss their death.

Case 1 - Past tense:

Person B: Dude you shouldn't have been so far up <- notice the past tense, this will often make Person A feel like they are being attacked, and they are more likely to react by defending themselves instead of focusing on playing smarter the next time. person A: I wasn't trying to die, they just caught me! It wasn't my fault!!!

Here Person A argued instead of recognizing or learning what they need to do better next time (ward and watch out for ganks).

Case 2 - Present tense:

Person B: Aww man that sucks, I'm sorry you're dead right now. it's not fair how they can pull bullshit like that. person A: Thanks! Yeah, it's so unfair!

Here both players commiserate over the unfortunate event. Nothing is learned from it, but Person A is at least feeling supported by person B. As long as you use the present tense like this (to express support for a teammate after something bad happens), it will serve a good purpose because it will put Person A's mind at ease and they won't be worried about getting flamed by Person B every time they make a mistake.

Case 3 - Future tense:

Person B: Oof that's unfortunate. Lets try to ward next time before you push like that again, maybe it will help keep you safe. person A: Thanks! I'll try that.

Here person B makes the discussion focus more on what to do about the problem in the future, and they do it in a helpful way. This helps Player A to see why their push ended badly for them and gives them a clear goal - a safer strategy to try the next time that they want to push.

Also, keep in mind that verb tense is more than just talking about when to do something. Telling somebody to "stop feeding/flaming" or to "feed/flame less next time" isn't really using the future tense, because it is still making the player's mistake from the past into the main focus of the discussion.


3. On maintaining team morale and preventing tilt and arguments.

A lot of the time, people begin to argue or tilt because of plays going badly. They can't accept responsibility (or fault / blame) for their mistakes, or they are upset because somebody else's mistake made the game harder to win.

A series of bad plays is sometimes all it takes to drive a team into the worst sorts of in-fighting and arguments. This is why it is super important to maintain team morale and to keep people focused on strategy and future plays.

When a play goes badly, you can head-off (or prevent) multiple problems. First you can prevent the player from tilting and getting anxious or afraid of their mistakes getting them blamed or harassed by the team. And second, you can help the whole team to not tilt by turning the focus away from the mistake and towards what can be done to prevent or make-up-for the mistake in the future.

To do this you need to use a combination of the present and future tense, in order to make the player (or team) feel supported while also giving them a clear goal of something to do better the next time around. For example, the future tense case from section 2. Notice how Player B commiserates with player A to make them feel like Player B is on their side ("oof that 's unfortunate," and then gives them an idea for what to do next time ("Maybe if we ward next time it will keep you safe.")

Maintaining team morale isn't just about preventing tilt though! You don't even have to try to make players feel better after a bad play if they are already feeling great in the first place! This is why it is important to compliment teammates whenever a play goes well.

If the jungler ganks top and they kill the enemy or force the enemy to waste resources... Say something like "good teamwork top & jungle" or "great gank" because these sorts of things will make them feel good about what they did well, and make them feel motivated to try to do such teamwork successfully again in the future.

If bottom lane gets a tower or mid lane roams and makes a successful play, compliment them for it! People love praise and it will make them feel like you have their back.

This has another benefit of making them trust you more, that way if things go wrong later and you need to give feedback or suggest they do something different, they will already think you are nice and will be less likely to take it personally or get upset when you tell them to do something differently.


Conclusion:

Phew! That was a lot, I hope it wasn't too much of a wall of text. That's most of what I have to say for now.

I've used each of these techniques to great effect in my own games, and I highly recommend you try them in your own. If you have any questions about them or you want to discuss other techniques, just let me know I'll be happy to talk more about this.

Yordanik1/17/2018, 10:10:44 AM1 votes

/pingmuteall

JackMcSnipeyz1/19/2018, 2:30:17 AM1 votes

Mute everyone, unbind chat button.

Chimp Joker1/19/2018, 12:27:16 AM1 votes

2 days ago I played with someone who was autofilled the support role. He claimed to no have many support champs nor does he play it often. I was fine with this; it's just a game. Fast forward a few minutes later into the game, starts to harass me and criticize everything I did. It's not exactly easy trying to farm when your support is Braum, and your enemy laners are vayne and brand, a.k.a. heavy poke bot lane. He legit decided to take away my cs if I chose not to cs, even though I do try to cs, I'll get poked to hell. After trying to juggle abuse from both enemy and braum, we lost a team fight. At that moment, I was tilted and he was just barking and harassing me, then proceeds to go to mid lane to "support" our mid laner.

I could of talked smack to him. I could of trolled him to no end. I could of easily just afk'd and do something else for the day. But there was one option that was, albeit simple, the most effective. I just muted him. I was still tilted but over the game I farmed, take deep breaths, and calmed down. My team still lost the game, but it didnt end as badly as it could of. I reported the little shit stain, told him to "have a nice day" and moved on to the next game.
Stealthlly1/17/2018, 10:50:19 AM1 votes

Bro, I'm trying to think of how it is possible for you to be unable to stop being a toxic player. Then again, you are just one of the thousands of people who struggle with this in LoL. Here is some advice that is available to all players:

The Summoner's Code http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/summoners-code What I call the Advanced Summoner's Code https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751874-Behavior-Worthy-of-a-Champion And for those too lazy to read https://youtu.be/ugXC7g3p0JU

If you want my advice though, your best bet would be to find WHY are you toxic. Don't give some BS excuse how it's your team or you can't carry or you just get paired with stupid players. Do you need attention? Do you need to stand out? Are you so set on winning you can't see past human error? Do you enjoy putting others down? Are you watching others gameplay more than your own? (That last one is huge. Being self-critical of your gameplay allows you to improve yourself and distract you from what your teammates are doing.)

Team game man, work with the team you are given. You can't win every game, but you can sure as hell lose every game by creating disharmony among the only allies you are given.

Also, I very much agree with that other guy.

"expect nothing from your teammates and everything from your opponents!"

Best of luck. Bard

TreeDayBan1/17/2018, 11:32:29 AM1 votes

I'll be honest with you. If League came out when I was 16-18 years old, I'd probably have 50+ accounts banned. I had ungodly, hate-filled rage back then when I played games online. But that was 16-18 years ago lol(35). Its going to be hard to say anything to someone young about toxicity and how to stop it. No one could help me back then when I would destroy my own stuff(mice/keyboards/desk/etc), and I doubt anything can really help you right now but time. And maybe lifestyle. Most rage and toxicity stems from IRL issues. Mine did back then. Now that Im a more well-adjusted, older adult I just dont rage like that anymore.

One thing that can help is making another account(s). Play a new role. New champs. When you are learning something else or disconnected from your main role it can loosen you up. If you find yourself getting toxic again, and it will happen when you start "tryharding" do it again, or swap back to your other account and role. Back and forth; never staying on one long enough to flame teammates. Just saying the new account is a new you can help. Thats why people have stage names and persona names. Outside of that nothing else can be said really except actively try to calm down. But I know its hard. I couldn't do it as a teenager(not guessing your age but I bet a lot of LoL players are 13-23 year olds or whatever).

kevin heals you1/17/2018, 1:38:22 PM1 votes

most toxicity is people flaming for others mistakes. you need to realize this is irrational behavior because you yourself are making just as many mistakes as the person you are flaming, that's why your in the same elo as them. you can't just not flame you have to change your mind state to where you do not get negative emotions from your teams misplays or when you lose. go into each game excited knowing that there is so much that you can learn and you can become 100 times better then you currently are every moment should be a learning experience, if you are flaming your teamates or getting angry instead of objectively look at what your doing and how you could do it better you won't gain skill and rank up. best way to become less toxic is mindful meditation so you can realize when you are angry and that its irrational, in time you will be able to just let go of the negative thoughts.

Makaisson1/17/2018, 2:43:53 PM1 votes

Just don’t type in chat. All important information can be communicated via pings. Besides, typing wastes time - you aren’t csing, harassing, zoning or anything while you’re typing. So you’ll probably play better too.

If you really feel the need to flame someone, the question mark ping wont get you banned. When used sparingly, that gets your point across better anyway.

Gaxoo1/17/2018, 4:08:25 PM1 votes

There are plenty of other games to play. You don't have to live in fear of Riot's fascist banhammer.

Unker1391/17/2018, 4:15:45 PM1 votes

Treat chat as is though your mom/boss/10 year old son is watching or playing and can see what you are typing.