First of all, I'm not a Riot Employee, just another player with a tag for knowing quite a bit about the Player Behavior aspects of League.
Second, formatting. I hate to be "that guy", but your post is a nigh unapproachable, monolithic wall of text with no line breaks. I'd recommend hitting Enter twice between every 3-4 lines of text.
Are emotions of 1 person all that matters?
What do you mean by "the emotions of one player"? Do you mean to say that reports are always emotionally charged, and that those emotions are more valid than any other factor in the match?
If that's the case, then, no. The emotions of the reporting player(s) are not taken into account. If you get reported, you are judged based on your behavior. So, your behavior is what matters.
What about 9 people stuck in a game when 1 person leaves, does that not matter? What about a player inting therefore losing his team a game, that also doesn't matter right?
Those factors do matter, but neither of them exempt a player from the rules or the consequences of breaking them. You're not allowed to flame or bicker or harass just because you have an AFK or an intentional feeder.
Only flamers actually get punished by bans, no one else...
That is just patently false.
Intentional feeders and trolls get banned, cheaters get banned, bot accounts get banned, shared accounts get banned...So, no, flamers are not the only ones who get punished with bans.
...and in my opinion that's just a pathetic "punishment" system.
And how does that opinion stand upon reevaluating the punishment system with new information?
For people who don't know, if you leave some games you get 5 games of prolonged queue, but if you leave again in your first game with prolonged queue, it simply goes back to 5 instead of going to 9. What a big punishment right? Ruin game for 9 people get nearly nothing.
LeaverBuster penalties stack up to a 20-minute Low Priority Queue. Sure, it takes a small while to get there, but if you're consistently leaving the match before clearing your five games of LPQ, you're going to get there reliably quickly.
What if you intentionally feed? Well it's simple, if no one has the actual time to write a ticket about your inting, NOTHING will happen, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
I mean, this is a simple problem with a simple answer. If no report = no punishment, then the obvious solution would be to take the time to actually report intentional feeders so that they can get punished.
I fail to see this as being an issue with the system. The system needs input in order to take action, so no input = no action. If you can't be bothered to report an intentional feeder, then you have no right to complain about them not getting punished.
But what happens in this scenario, you call your inter a weak minded idiot, what happens then? Well first you are chat restricted for 10 games...
Assuming your account is at a clean slate status, yes. Again, having an intentional feeder on your team doesn't give you a free pass to break the rules.
And, I can't emphasize this enough; Don't feed the trolls. Trolls and intentional feeders do what they do to get a reaction out of you, so don't give them what they want.
...which should be the only ever punishment given out to flamers as it literally cancels their only crime.
I disagree. If they flame consistently enough to get to a temp ban or permaban, they've earned that ban by showing a flagrant disrespect for the rules they signed up for. You may think that flamers only deserve to be chat restricted and never banned, and that is a valid viewpoint, but why should they be let to break the rules over and over and over?
Riot has to put their foot down somewhere, and if you can't be bothered to play by the rules, Riot can't be bothered to have you playing at all.
But then you are honor lvl 0...
Your first Chat Restriction will put you at Honor Level 1, IIRC. It takes either a second punishment or a ban as your first punishment to drop you to Honor Level 0.
So if you call another person having a bad game a "bad player" then well, you get 2 weeks of suspension...
No, that's not it, at all. The punishment progression (for chat-related misbehavior) is as follows:
- 10-game Chat Restriction
- 25-game Chat Restriction
- 14-day Suspension
- Permanent Suspension
Only rarely have I seen people jump past the 25-game CR after a 10-game CR, and in those cases, it was due to flaming and continuing to misbehave while their initial punishment was still active.
So basically you've insulted 2-3 people by calling them bad or stupid or whatever, and you get 20160 minutes of suspension.
Three things; first, refer above.
Second, if you're trying to make the 14-day suspension seem "super unfair" by quantifying its length in minutes, that's poor rhetoric, as people already know the rough length of time 14 days translates to.
Third, this is supposed to be Riot's way of saying "stop flaming, seriously. You agreed to not flame when you signed up to play League, and we're holding you to that agreement. Quit now, or we're going to permaban your account."
I have no idea how anyone in their right mind can think there is any justice in this system.
So, are you trying to overinflate the mainline punishment system solely to point out that LeaverBuster penalties don't incur an Honor drop? Because so far, all I'm seeing is a large amount of complaints about the mainline punishments with snide, half-handed remarks about LeaverBuster not dropping Honor thrown in between.
EVEN MORE IMPORTANT, HOW CAN RIOT NOT SEE THAT PLAYERS ARE VICTIMIZING THEMSELVES DUE TO "FLAME" BEING SO OVERUSED.
I could make the same argument that you're using intentionally feeding to victimize yourself and give yourself a free pass to flame. Y'know. "Why am I not allowed to flame an inter?"
For example, couple of days ago i was jungle my buddy was adc, i come to gank and support does not follow. Both of us simply write it was his mistake, after which he writes "i can't stand this flame" and proceeds to go 1-15 literally dying mid every change he gets. He didnt get punished.
Well, this goes back to the problem illustrated earlier:
What if you intentionally feed? Well it's simple, if no one has the actual time to write a ticket about your inting, NOTHING will happen, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Did you report the intentional feeder? If no, then the odds are significantly lower that he'd get punished.
And even still, self-victimizing doesn't work like that. If he gets frustrated at people flaming him and then starts intentionally feeding...He's not a victim. He's culpable for his behavior, and can be punished for it.
I want 1 Rioter to try and explain how slightly hurting someones emotions can be more valuable than the time of 9 others...
It isn't. As I mentioned before, emotions are not taken into consideration when punishing players for flaming - if you get reported, your behavior is what matters.
...or how the punishment system makes any sense whatsoever.
Well, considering that so far most of your assumptions about the system are based on incorrect information and anecdotes? I can see how it wouldn't make sense. You need to actually understand the system to make sense of it, and hopefully, my clarifications earlier in the response help you to understand it better.
Btw bonus factor: how can the punishment for flame be the harshest...
Oh, so do flamers only get a 14-day ban and then a permanent ban afterwards, like trolls and intentional feeders? Do they get an immediate account suspension like cheaters and bots and other third-party software users, or people who share their accounts?
If no, then you can't say that punishments for flame are the harshest.
...when you can LITERALLY MUTE, WHILE YOU CANNOT AFFECT INTERS/LEAVERS. HOW?
Muting is a band-aid solution and short-term defense against toxicity. It does not magically render the rules you agreed to obsolete or null.
Let me repeat: The existence of the Mute Feature does not exempt you from the rules against flaming.
And I find it ironic that you mention here that you can't affect intentional feeders and leavers...Yet you also complain that you get punished for flaming an intentional feeder?
At some point the understanding that you can't affect intentional feeders should take precedence over your desire to flame them.
