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Cruel Woman·11/8/2016, 9:55:45 PM·2 votes·1,327 views

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/201818740/en_US-leaverBusterWaitToQueueDialog.jpg Okay Riot i understand you are trying to do the right thing, but this is getting out of control. i was playing a game and i was going teemo mid against heimer when my internet shuts off for a second and it disconnects me from league of legends no big deal, reconnect, play, and finish the game. i did and me and my team got a victory and i got slapped with a 45 minute lever buster for reconnecting and finishing the game

Riot this is not going to fly. you seriously need to update your system. My recommendation: If they didn't agree to leaving the game by menu and it was just an internet problem or their computer shut off from overheating then they don't deserve a buster nobody's internet is 100% perfect it will go out due to weather and such.

if they reconnected to the game after fixing their internet then they don't deserve a buster

and about they abandon a game in champion select nobody likes to be held hostage in champion select if you have a guy who just doesn't want to cooperate or wants to feed instead of making his/her team waste 30min of their time just for a defeat and punishing the guy who spares his team of a defeat waste his time how about a remake button in champion select where 4 players have to agree to remake

Q: but what about the feeder

A: Easy set up a report system too and if put him in a game with other champion select trolls who have been reported 10+ times so they can all lose together just like they wanted and everyone is happy the serious players get matched with other serious players and the trolls get matched with other trolls and everything is balanced

Q: what if they learned their lesson and their feeding ways are over

A:they either have to get lots of teamwork upvotes or carry by getting an A in 10 games to make up for the 10 losses. so not only have they learned their lesson but they increased their skill by learning how to carry their team and will be a great addition on a serious team.

10 Comments

Zombiemaster11/8/2016, 10:25:25 PM10 votes

About the Leaverbuster, all leaves are treated the same because they all cause your team to be at a disadvantage for the time you are gone. Even if you reconnect, being gone for an extended period of time can cause problems for your team (note that it won't always be like that, but the possibility is still there).

Now, Riot knows that sometimes things happen that cause you to leave, which is why they designed the system with some leniency. You won't be punished for one or two leaves, you get punished when you show a pattern of leaving multiple games. If this leave triggered a punishment for you, then either you have a history of leaving games intentionally, or you have a history of leaving games due to technical issues. If it's the latter, then this is not a one time thing, and it's your responsibility to find a solution for it before queuing up for more games.

As for your propositions, your idea about people with internet issues not being punished wouldn't work too well, as intentional leavers could simply pull the plug on their router, making it look like they left because their internet went out.

However, I do agree that if a disconnected player returns then they shouldn't be punished, to a certain extent anyway. I wouldn't say if they reconnect period then they shouldn't be punished, but something along the lines of if they reconnect fast enough and even help their team win the game, their teammates could vote on whether or not that game should count towards a leaver punishment. While it isn't perfectly thought out and there's no specifics to anything, I personally believe it could be something at worth at least looking into.

As for your final idea about the feeders/trolls being placed in a queue with other players similar to them, this is an idea commonly referred to as "Prisoner's Island." It's something that has been suggested to Riot multiple times over the years, and Riot has shot it down every time. Short story of why is because it doesn't really encourage players to reform their behavior, which is one of their main goals with player behavior.

EvilDustMan11/8/2016, 9:59:47 PM4 votes

Uh, if it's 45 minutes, that's generally because you have a history of leaving games.

LordofEntropy11/8/2016, 10:13:17 PM2 votes

Sounds like you leave a lot. I've had a couple of instances where my internet dropped out for 5 to 15 minutes, causing me to not be able to finish the game as I didn't get back in time. I've never received any punishment or low-priority queue. I'd think to get 45 minutes means you leave quite frequently.

The problem with "leaverbuster only if you exit via menu" is that people who rage and quit mid-game will simply unplug their modem, ethernet, turn-off/hard-reset their machine, or whatever else to simulate an outage. The people who truly are having internet issues, will only encounter them infrequently and won't incur punishments. If you have crap internet that drops all the time, well that comes with the territory and you just have to accept that's what you get. Just like someone who tries to play Leauegetting only like 15 fps has to accept how hard it will be to play.

midnight oil2411/8/2016, 9:57:43 PM1 votes

Well, some people just sit back at base until the game calls them AFK, so your system wouldn't handle that, it would just think their internet had gone out. While you have a good idea, it would need to be able to tell the difference between bad internet connection and people who were using this loophole.

MUSHROOM MIDGET11/9/2016, 2:43:48 AM1 votes

it still wouldnt be good. you would allow trolls to dc intentionally and go make a sandwich and come back and oh what a surprise their team is losing. then do it again the next game

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