is asking someone if he is inting or having a bad game punishable?
lets say someone goes 0/16 and i say "if you are, why are you inting? if not, can i help you to focus?" can i get banned for that?
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"are you feeding"
That's a pretty innocent question. Should you be punished for that alone? No. Is it helpful to the game? No. I don't think the answer would help you figure out what to do. Skip to your next question: can I help you? Because your options are to gank, farm up, or gank another lane, as they were to begin with. You also run the risk of everyone ranting about your feeder, which hurts the team even more so.
The better question to ask yourself is: Is there a benefit to asking the question. There are two possible outcomes:
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The person is trolling, in which case if they have half a brain they won't say anything, or they'll deny it.
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The person is having a bad game, and you've basically just thrown salt in open wounds.
If there's something you think the player can do better, make the suggestion politely, ONE TIME, and then drop it. Example: "Try to stay in EXP range but don't trade, even if it means you can't farm. We'll help you soon." Again, I can't stress enough, make the suggestion ONE TIME. Repeating it over and over because they don't want to do it your way will only harass the player.
The question "Are you intentionally feeding?" is beneficial 0% of the time.
That in and of itself will not get you punished. It might get you reported by a salty person, but JUST that will not get you punished. Report =/= punish.
Where most people get into troubles is when the person who the question is directly at responded (90% of the time) with some toxic salt and you responded with toxic in kind. That's when you get punished.
You can ask that question. If the other guy doesn't answer in a non-toxic manner or answer at all, drop it and never mention it again. Report end game for inting if you feel the need, but do not mention it again for the rest of the game.
I've had a game where our Top Camille just fed over and over constantly and constantly. She ignored all advice, and wouldn't even stay alive or try and smart for me as jungler to gank. I suspected that she was trying to be a "smart troll" and disguise the trolling and griefing as just "playing bad".
I called her out in /all with "I'm pretty certain Camille is trolling at this point" most people seemed to agree with me but the enemy adc said something like "I'm reporting you WW for being toxic and making accusations" I just told her something like "If you think I'm that bad then go ahead"
That was it. I didn't rage, I didn't flame I just tried to focus on helping bot and mid. We still lost cause Camille ended feeding EVERYONE and then pretty much leaving an open lane to the point where it reall was a 4v6 but we put up a good fight.
The game ended and I did NOT get punished. I don't know if Ashe just decided no to report me or if she did and the system found nothing punishable.
So based on my experience, if you really think someone is being truly horrible then you CAN call them out on it, but just make sure not to rage and flame. Also don't constantly berate them and if people disagree then don't waste time arguing with them. Just report them at end of game. Give a good explanation in chat box. If they're being really sneaky then you might have to save the replay and move on.
I think there's absolutely no point in asking
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If they're inting, they'll never admit it because admitting it in chat is like a guaranteed punishment.
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If they're having a bad game, you'll just piss them off because you're accusing them of potentially inting and it causes a rift in your team dynamic.
Asking is a lose lose situation.
If you don't ask the question, you have the potential to save your team by trying to work with them to either stop inting or catch them up so they can be relevant in team fights.
EDIT: ah Subdue said the same thing as I was typing my response