What do you do when someone "death threats", but is clearly not serious?

darkdill··2 votes·937 views

Say the culprit words his "threat" in a way that very clearly shows he's just trolling. Does it make any difference?

I ask because that makes a big difference when it comes to the police. If the words are such that an online threat can't be proven serious and/or you can't prove the person is capable of carrying out said threat, police generally don't act upon it. (AFAIK)

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RIPPED ASSHOLE4 votes

Look man, here's the reality. The person making such comments(I'm assuming that it's you, since you're making an effort to defend said comments) is having a personal issue, and people going through real life stress often vent by blaming other people, because they can't handle the stress.

You, or whoever you're talking about, should really start exercising self control. This is a dangerous direction to go in.

The person that these comments were directed at has every right to be upset, however, they should also be aware that these kinds of things happen in a high-stress competitive online game. If you are incapable of handling offensive comments, then you shouldn't be putting yourself in a situation where it is likely to happen.

Riot is doing everything they can to try and clean up the community, and they're doing an absolutely amazing job, considering they are actually taking measures to change peoples personality in mass numbers.

Regardless, the world does not revolve around you, and you can't just sit around and play victim while you wait for the world to meet your standards.

Gotted2 votes

Basically all you can do is teach everyone around you to not be an offended victimized PC little bitch and hope it catches on.

entitledplayer1 votes

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Basically all you can do is teach everyone around you to not be an offended victimized PC little bitch and hope it catches on.

Except every player has a Riot-granted right to voice the opinion that says this is not acceptable.

And it's never acceptable, because you signed two contracts that said this and many other things.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/eula

Gotted1 votes

for starters, your name is entitledplayer, we know you are a problem in the world. Go away. secondly, there is no evidence that this has anything to do with league- the dude is talking about police here.

entitledplayer2 votes

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for starters, your name is entitledplayer, we know you are a problem in the world. Go away. secondly, there is no evidence that this has anything to do with league- the dude is talking about police here.

One: My chosen summoner name is ironic, not a point of your breakdown when you clearly don't understand or care how Riot works.

The summoner name could have been "coolskeleton94", it has no bearing on this discussion.

Two: In any of the 50 states of America, police are obligated to answer any and all matters of safety and security -- period, full stop.

If any member of law enforcement drew a CryWolf scenario, was wrong, and got the person who came to them for help or anyone involved killed/or injured, the department would have the collective heads turned on the ass so fast, they'd have to issue not just a public apology on behalf of the chief, but all officers in question kicked from the force.

The motto is "Protect and Serve", not "Protect and Serve, except when we think you're just sensitive and need to grow a f*cking pair."

Police the world over may be slowly behind the ball, but they've become better at how to assess and handle internet issues such as doxing, swatting, and general harassment.

As for Riot? They've had this stance since day one -- You don't harass or threaten players, not even in a joke, because it's not a laughing matter, despite how trivial and/or funny you find it.

entitledplayer1 votes

No.

Death threats are death threats, and everyone is accountable for what they say and do.

Also there is no member of law enforcement who takes that stance -- Every threat must be vetted, and if they believe the person in question can be deterred by calling the bluff, they call it.

And if it's genuine? -- There's no talking or hesitation, they get subdued.

F12 it and report it.

Gotted1 votes

whaaa whaa whaa mommy he said something mean. whaa.

darkdill1 votes

You really expect law enforcement to devote time and resources to investigating every single red herring on the internet? That'd be such a huge waste.

entitledplayer1 votes

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You really expect law enforcement to devote time and resources to investigating every single red herring on the internet? That'd be such a huge waste.

No, I don't -- Because the parallel here is Riot being the police, not actual town law enforcement.

Police have had to jump through the ringer to develop anti-swatting tactics when dealing with streamers who get trolled, and law enforcement has always vetted things of this nature at all times.

When people swat these days, they get held accountable and then fined/arrested for wasting public servant resources.

Erdrik1 votes

The issue with your comparison is not the person making the "joke" threat. The issue is everyone else.

In the case of police, everyone else involved has the right and freedom to either walk away from the offender or confront them.

In LoL the players are expect to play to the end of the match without leaving, and without retaliating. Since the players aren't allowed to retaliate, then it is up to the system to do it for them.

Gotted1 votes

Oh I legit didn't know this was the behavior forum. Though I was in GD. Sorry if I hurt any feelings in the safe space. You may all go back to being snowflakes now.

Troll Armada1 votes

Basically what it means is that, sarcasm and ironic humor are no longer permitted.

What I started doing, starting today is minimize your chat window to the smallest it can go. Typing accurately becomes a chore and you are less likely to do it.... or this device looks promising too:

http://pavlok.com/hello.php

Basically, every time you want to add wit and humor to the desolate fields of the rift, then buzz yourself with a powerful shock, and in a couple days, apparently, you'll stop.

P.S. Police generally don't have a sense of humor and you will be at the mercy of whatever hysterical nut is bothering them. You never know when they need a poster child for online bullying and that becomes you.

entitledplayer1 votes

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Basically what it means is that, sarcasm and ironic humor are no longer permitted.

Except what players actively engage in is not sarcasm and ironic humor -- It's unnecessary and sus AF shade throwing out of sheer pettiness.

Especially when approached disrespectfully and not recovered correctly to save the mood.

You may not understand this, but that's the reason too many players don't know the difference between intelligence and trolling -- Way too many have hair triggers based on personal assumptions and will do the mental gymnastics to get to the conclusion that best fits them in the moment, not rational and maturity at all times, because it's rare.

Current generations Generation Like and Millennials will clash because of this -- because they don't know how to approach the subject without being blatant offensive, hype up what they say is savagery, then continue to roast someone they don't like or fires back in an never-ending cycle, because no-one taught them how to discussion or debate;

If they even care to step back and think about what's being said because one or both sides refuse to back down until they go too far.

P.S. Police generally don't have a sense of humor and you will be at the mercy of whatever hysterical nut is bothering them. You never know when they need a poster child for online bullying and that becomes you.

Except this is not a police state devoid of humor and wit -- Not everything needs humor, and somethings are meant to be serious. Hindsight, it can be a funny story -- But at the time, it won't be funny to someone, and they won't put up with it.

Troll Armada1 votes

I can understand how sarcasm and/or general craziness in chat could be misinterpreted, because it's not like you have a lot of time to think about what you are saying, and almost like eating while browsing the computer, you start to do it on automated pilot..... old habits die hard.

I'm half-joking in parts of this post, but my general point is better safe than sorry, and if you already got chat bans then you need to get out of auto-pilot mode.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

The question is this

HOW CAN A DEATH THREAT BE SERIOUS IN AN ONLINE GAME?

You think that pusssylicker69 will come to your house and kill you:)))...yup..i would be very worried:))

entitledplayer2 votes

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The question is this

HOW CAN A DEATH THREAT BE SERIOUS IN AN ONLINE GAME?

You think that pusssylicker69 will come to your house and kill you:)))...yup..i would be very worried:))

No, it isn't: Because by reading the EULA and ToS, "pusssylicker69" knows not to have that summoner, knows not provoke and antagonize players by issuing a death threat and make someone feel uncomfortable because of something they took out fo context or overstepped the lines of.

It's a question of:

"How mature are you going to behave yourself?"

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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entitledplayer1 votes

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I am not a monkey, I am a black male and a person who doesn't appreciate being culturally insulted because you made no points, just repeating a unproven rhetoric.

It's very obvious you're out of your depth, so you shouldn't be devolving to ad hominem attacks on others persons and should refrain from it.

What you need to understand is this kind of communication is NEVER ACCEPTABLE. Full stop, period.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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entitledplayer1 votes

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>Says they don't care about my race, yet continues to use a very deep set racial slur that directly insults one of my base races as a black African-American with Creole-French heritage.

So what you're saying is: " I don't care about the fact I should never be calling users out of name, and don't compare them to animals ontop of that: I just don't have general respect period, so f*ck you, poster -- Do something about it. "

No, there is no "simpler" to this: That kind of behavior is not tolerated on the Rift, because it's direct violation of Summoner's Code, The EULA, and the ToS, that you agreed to -- PERIOD.

Do not pass go, do not collect $200 -- You do not speak to others this way, period -- It is harassment and hate speech, the same as what you're doing now because you think it's humorous.

Still comparing a player that you have no business calling out of name as you insult a player who is Black-descent by calling them a monkey.

Go educate yourself before Riot bans you for constantly harassing a user for no explicit reason than because you think you're allowed or justified to.

http://www.authentichistory.com/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/ http://www.rsdb.org/race/blacks http://www.rsdb.org/search/monkey

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

Words are the weapon of choice in today's society. Do not underestimate the effect your words may have on others.

Awkward Couch1 votes

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The question is this

HOW CAN A DEATH THREAT BE SERIOUS IN AN ONLINE GAME?

You think that pusssylicker69 will come to your house and kill you:)))...yup..i would be very worried:))

Because there are people who don't protect their information. Look at what happened to PhantomLord. The guy got DDOS'd and his twitter account hacked, the hacker said he was holding a girl hostage in his basement, and the hacker gave out his real life address. PhantomLord was arrested while the cops figured out what was going on. Granted, all his fans did was send him pizza, but there are some crazy motherfuckers out there. It's well within reason that someone may actually find, stalk, and make good on a death threat.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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Because there are people who don't protect their information. Look at what happened to PhantomLord. The guy got DDOS'd and his twitter account hacked, the hacker said he was holding a girl hostage in his basement, and the hacker gave out his real life address. PhantomLord was arrested while the cops figured out what was going on. Granted, all his fans did was send him pizza, but there are some crazy motherfuckers out there. It's well within reason that someone may actually find, stalk, and make good on a death threat.

idk who that guy is..but, if he is a streamer, and popular..well, you better keep your shit private:))..but, in a game like this, well..nobody should care:)

Awkward Couch1 votes

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idk who that guy is..but, if he is a streamer, and popular..well, you better keep your shit private:))..but, in a game like this, well..nobody should care:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaeA43-U5kM

He was a very popular League streamer. He has moved on to CSGO, but still, it's not like he meant to get hacked (actually hacked not the "I got hacked and my account got permabanned" that you see on this section). Maybe it's different where you are, but in the US, the police do take these sorts of threats very seriously.

Ada Wong1 votes

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Say the culprit words his "threat" in a way that very clearly shows he's just trolling. Does it make any difference?

I ask because that makes a big difference when it comes to the police. If the words are such that an online threat can't be proven serious and/or you can't prove the person is capable of carrying out said threat, police generally don't act upon it. (AFAIK)

1.) Report it anyways just to be a (Troll) use the Law to troll the person making the threats some of us actually have people friends who work in the FBI, and not only that but the person you threaten could be Law Enforcement too with connections.

2.) Have my Firearm loaded IRL and be like come at me bro.

3.) Threatening people over the internet I shouldn't have to say this but with technology these days its not exactly hard to find the person making the threats even if you are not Law Enforcement but many kids making the threats will leave details online which can be tracked easily.

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