NA Server....Should We Be Ashamed?

ScratchMcnuts··13 votes·1,946 views

So I just recently converted back over to NA after having spent the last few years in EUW, EUE, and Oceanic. The new season kicked off and my friends were pressuring me to convert back over to NA even though I currently live and work in Japan. The most embarrassing revelation I made within my first week is how bad North Americans are. We are not skill wise bad but our trolls, AFKs, selfish jungles, solo campaigners, we have in surplus. What is in the American way of life that inspires such a high number of infant temper tantrum, hypersensitive players? I am legitimately curious, any thoughts?

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TNHA Baritone13 votes

Because this server of a computer game represents the whole country, right?

The most embarrassing revelation I made within my first week is how bad North Americans are.

Please refrain from making blatant statements like that (along the line of racism, all you're missing is a negative trait of some kind...which you do start to list.)

hypersensitive players

You mean when someone says something that's against the summoner code (e.g. a threat) and we report it (aka the right thing to do)?

high number of infant temper tantrum

I doubt that people sit in front of their computers and throw tantrums (and if they did, do you really think it's exclusive to only America)


This post upsets me because the SAME thing could be said about other servers and I really feel like people instantly agree because they've never been on another server.

I could easily ask: What is it in the European lifestyle that inspires such a higher number of [insert negative traits]

TwinkiePro2 votes

I've played on NA, OCE, and EUW, and have always found more of a pain. That's personal experience, but I don't shit talk everyone from there and tell them to be ashamed because I know the few I have played don't represent the many.

ScratchMcnuts1 votes

First off, I am American. So take your defense from the "Europeans" down a notch.

Accusing some one of borderline racism because they observe that one server is dramatically different than the rest its utterly absurd.

Have you played ranked on all the other servers? I see on your profile that you haven't........doesn't that make you a bit ignorant for posting anything at all without having experienced the reason for the post.

TNHA Baritone1 votes

Speaking of ignorance: You can't see whether I've played ranked on different servers because you can't view my many other accounts.

Have you played ranked on all the other servers? I see on your profile that you haven't........doesn't that make you a bit ignorant for posting anything at all without having experienced the reason for the post.

(Sorry you Ad hominem failed)

Also...you look up the definition of racist please...

PDE5 Inhib2 votes

Please refrain from making blatant statements like that

He said the server is bad. That does not mean that everyone on the server is bad. These two statements are not the same. The NA server IS bad. If it weren't, they wouldn't be trying all these failing wars on "toxicity".

You mean when someone says something that's against the summoner code (e.g. a threat)

No, I doubt OP is talking about this. OP is probably talking about people that afk because you asked them to play safe. Not many people would consider reporting for someone making a threat as hypersensitive, so I'm not sure why you're jumping here?

I haven't played on any other server, so I can't really comment as to what they're like. I will say, though, that the people that play this game are bad. AFKs and trolls in most of my games. Others going "on tilt" because you asked them to play safe or the enemy said, "get rekt" after killing them. Then I see players trying to get E-Sports recognized as a real sport and die of laughter because of the people that play this game.

74981916_DEL1 votes

hes right, most NA downvote decent post like this, you should be ashamed

he talking to people who continue the toxic treeline, not you in general

if it does not pertain to you, then response as needed, but on japan and EUW at least they team friendly than your average 16 year old quing for a league match ready to be toxic and keyboard hero

GamblerOfLives7 votes

To answer your question. YES YOU SHOULD. you should be very ashamed. Do you know how the players are on EUNE? Pff. In everygame i hear people "i love you man","let's all have a great game". when someone is feeding " sorry guys , i'm so sad, i apologies, will try to make up next game, sorry" and we answer" we still love you man" "relax man, it's just a game" , "hope you get of tilt buddy, would love to duo with you next game" This is how people act on EUNE.

3TWarrior1 votes

it's a little disheartening but overall it actually seems a friendlier nature

proud and bronze6 votes

all of us are spoiled, entitled little brats.

in the united states we are all told we are special, which means all the people around us are below us. we have been coddled and have gotten everything we wanted all our lives, so when something doesnt go our way we throw a fit. if someone is rude to us, we tell on them and expect them to be punished NOW. how dare they?

its all pretty sad. america is on its way down for sure.

3TWarrior3 votes

or it could be the opposite. We are told we are special and that we can do anything, but instead of helping us with our goals and determining our strengths, america generalizes the public into the 90%, the 9% and the 1%.

those are, in order: the capable, the incapable, and the exceptional

or in other words, the norm, the needy and the uncategorized

you'd be surprised how many people say that they just memorized their way through high school and then, there is literally nothing for them because the public school system teaches facts and not practical skills(including social skills)

ScratchMcnuts1 votes

agreed

Angry Monster3 votes

your in b5 and complaining.... about the skill of people.

what do you expect?

1 800 MID LANE4 votes

This thread has literally nothing to do with skill. In fact, he even said he's not talking about skill here.

Angry Monster3 votes

Says he is not talking about skill then talks about how people are playing the game. If you do not see the correlation; there is nothing anyone can do for you.

1 800 MID LANE2 votes

I see the things he lists as a mentality of "everything is about me." It is game skill to an extent, but that's more of a social downfall than lacking any sort of skill.

Also, insinuating my supposed lack of intelligence was not needed.

Angry Monster1 votes

No the OP plays a a bronze level which we all know is full of bad players and those that just troll. HE is talking about the mentality that is at the bronze 5 level only, cause he has no clue what happens are higher levels.

Nightblu3 (a very proment stream) who plays on EU servers even talk about how they rage more at the diamond/master level than then do in the NA server.

The OP has a very small world and is probably lashing out cause where he plays at. Maybe in japan being really bad is not that big of a deal, but as fair as american society is concerned it is shameful.

ScratchMcnuts2 votes

Actually, i have been all over the leagues......on NA and other servers. NA owns trolls in every ladder of the ranking system. Yes, you see less afkers in platinum, but there is still more than a fair share of solo only / trolls.

ScratchMcnuts1 votes

if you look at my league history, you will see that I was dramatically higher on the EU server.......dramatically....one cannot solo carry enough games to escape bronze....especially with how many trolls i experience on NA.

Angry Monster1 votes

Funny gold and higher NA players always figure out how to climb out of bronze.

There is no way to look at a past region History and know what you were. I highly dobut that you were plat or higher and then got dropped into bronze 5. LoLking only shows you as b5

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/73469288

Stop making excuses.

No flash no life3 votes

An opinion from someone who spent half of his life in asia and the other half in NA. Read bold texts only if you hate essay.

I believe the answer is the way we are raised in NA. In other words, education.

**Most parents aren't dedicated to educate their children in strict&harsh manner for them to be polite, respectful, humble, and caring toward others. ** They do not lead them into creating comfortable environment for everyone. This doesn't show when they're young&simple minded, but once they reach teenage they show no hesitation to reveal the selfish nature of humanity, and once they reach adulthood the environment they create becomes one where if you don't speak up and act as aggressive as others you gain neither respect nor priviledge others get.

It also doesn't help that school takes little responsibility in that aspect. Teachers are just there to relay knowledge. They hold no further responsibility than learning progress and well-being during class. It's very rare to see those willing to nurture students disregarding their own profit, and even then what they can do is very limited because they don't teach the same students for every subject every year.

In asia, every family raises children differently so I'll leave that out. School, however, is very different.

Homeroom teachers are stuck with the same students, teach majority of their subjects, and hold responsibility for their behavior until graduation. Teachers act as their 2nd parent and pyschological counsellors by maturing students' mentality and helping them with their interpersonal relationships ; more than often they approach students and their parents afterclass and pay home visits. They have to make sure nothing goes wrong within their classes or, as the adults who spend the most time with students, they're held responsible. By the end, students are implanted with the impression that they have to show consideration for everyone in their surrounding (class in this case) to create a harmonic environment and tend behave that way thereafter. (Though students running into same faces all the time contributes significantly to their in-class affection)

P.S. While this may explain their behavior of showing consideration for others and expecting to be treated alike in return, it often causes problems when they do not get what they want because they're considered rude&greedy in their society if they speak their mind and have to wait for others to offer.

Kei1432 votes

culturalwise, the north americans are more self centered compared to others.

Been in asia, been in europe, been in NA, its true, and people won't know it until they've lived in other locations for a while.

ArlanKels2 votes

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culturalwise, the north americans are more self centered compared to others.

Been in asia, been in europe, been in NA, its true, and people won't know it until they've lived in other locations for a while.

This is it. In America you're taught YOUR DREAM can become real, that YOU are important, that YOUR vote matters, that YOU don't have to put up with blah blah blah. Everything is about you you you.

In other countries you're raised with emphasis on family responsibility, helping the family and so on and so forth.

Hell one psychiatrist once told me that the main tip he could give when it came to "Small talk" was "Talk about the other person and have the conversation focus on them, because that's what people inherently want."

1 800 MID LANE3 votes

{quoted}

Hell one psychiatrist once told me that the main tip he could give when it came to "Small talk" was "Talk about the other person and have the conversation focus on them, because that's what people inherently want."

That has nothing to do with America and everything to do with human nature.

TNHA Baritone2 votes

t h i s

Spicy Rice1 votes

Then what am i? I was born and raised in america, yet im part of an indian (from india the country) family which has an insane amount of focus on family and community.

ScratchMcnuts1 votes

A "great white buffalo American" , "the last bastion of true Americanism".

Spicy Rice1 votes

I should make America great again

FurriesAreHot1 votes

Warrior is Red My Homescreen is Grey Korea Stomped NA

COBRA C0MM4NDER1 votes

it's the affluenza.

Rain Smurff1 votes

Welcome to NA

lolptwo1 votes

You're talking to a nation that is considering hiring a reality TV show host as President of their country...

3TWarrior1 votes

watch the X files...it will secretly explain everything XD

FrankerX1 votes

lol and i thought eune is the most toxic server ever.

Meurtrierr1 votes

Sugars, too much of it. Too much fat and fast food in america, bad parenting.

I`m a Canadian BTW so that does not apply to me.

61939590DEL11 votes

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Sugars, too much of it. Too much fat and fast food in america, bad parenting.

I`m a Canadian BTW so that does not apply to me.

Extremely bad parenting in the United States I wonder if the Americans are going to have another assassination attempt>< if Donald Trump gets elected & poor gun control. Everyone in the USA gets guns HERE Buy your guns( even play out a part from GTA 5 in real life) Yet how many have we seen do this already? The couple of incidents in Canada I can recall is around Saskatchewan there was an shooting as well in New Brunswick & in Toronto @ the Eaton center( which I experience the incident LIVE!

Envy Sin1 votes

Canada is part of America, It is North America.

Mexico is South america.

The United States are what you are talking about.

The United States of AMERICA.

You are American, Just not the kind everyone refers to.

Meurtrierr1 votes

Where i'm from is partly a French territory. See, i'm from Quebec so it's different. In other words, i'm a French Canadian.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

well...what makes one vote for Trump?

it´s the same problems like everywhere else, just a little more advanced - a middle class that is slowly disappearing as more and more money doesn´t tickle down, but rather the opposite. But as it´s common knowledge that you cannot make the truly rich share you can´t get rid of that frustration in the obvious direction, so you vote Trump...or throw a tantrum at the internet (which is probably more healthy still).

lolptwo1 votes

What you are saying is true, what baffles my mind though is how a nation correlates bad times with making matters even worse.

It's like getting in a car crash (the market crash) then go "FUCK IT IM SELLING THE HOUSE"...a little immature/ignorant behavior wouldn't you think?

Earl Eulrich1 votes

well, for one the educational systems world wide usually teach you how to function in this system we have, so if the system itself starts erroding the only option is to get confused and angry, because you know sth. is not right, but you donßt have the tools to either think about the root problems nor about a solution outside the box we live in.

Also, politics are just a mess in most countries of the world....nowadays politicians have mostly forgotten that their first responsibility are all their people, wether they voted for them or not - but instead most of them are just interessted in themselves. It´s like House of Cards is the only available option, as an actually responsible politician that can put the people first and himself last seems even less possible than fiction.

3TWarrior1 votes

unfortunately the difference belongs more to the social structure. The japanese, for instance, adhere to an honor culture and their family is their honor

americans live in a culture where one's social status can determine their temporary view of honor (or in some cases, permanent)

it's a community versus collection of individuals sort of thing and it doesn't help that most american customs determine reward by competition and not by quality

Golden Tank21 votes

Well, we should be ashamed of it, school doesn't teach niceness to good, from my experiences.

J E B A ł T E D1 votes

Lol stfu you racist european

Lauchmelder1 votes

{quoted}

though I currently live and work in Japan

J E B A ł T E D1 votes

racist asian and european player

Lauchmelder2 votes

Bad Boys bad Boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when we come for you?

"Build a wall!"

J E B A ł T E D1 votes

a man after my own heart. You know, I started off in Brooklyn, my fatha gave me a small loan of a million dollas

74981916_DEL1 votes

I agree with OP

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