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why is sexism not in the 0 tolerance categorie?

Arammus·4/12/2018, 10:09:15 PM·42 votes·15,933 views

just played a couple of games with a friend of mine, her name is jennifer and thats also in her summoners name. every time she has a bad game EVERY TIME there is at least 1 dude on the team going "show tits or pussy or stfu and get back into the kitchen"

why is this not an insta 14 day ban? racism is and sexism is in the same report categorie. hatespeech. so why is it not a 14day ban? she doesnt mind she laughs about it and so do i, but i wonder why its "tolerated"

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Real Sexy Yoona4/13/2018, 1:51:51 AM23 votes

First of all, my sincere sympathies for your friend Jennifer. Here is my answer to your question:

Systematically, sexism might be a lot harder to detect due to it's broader usage in context to any conversation. In the other hand, the category of what's acceptable while using Racist terms is very narrow or non-existent. In fact, saying racist things (especially the N word) might be one of the fastest way to get banned or suspended in League.

Socially, it's quite the phenomenon. People get so mad over someone saying the N word in public, regardless of it's context. (ex. fortnite streamer Ninja accidentally saying the N word while rapping) Yet, nobody seems to hold anything against the music industry that uses the word Bitch casually. Society has somehow accepted the word Bitch to be okay even though it's a derogatory term directed towards females. I'm in no way undermining the severity of saying the N word, however I am hinting towards a questionable mindset that gets worked up over the N word while being completely fine saying bitch or other words that objectify and dehumanize females.

I guess it all boils down to words lacking intrinsic value. Like how the word "purple" means nothing to a person born blind. Humans give meaning and value to words. And somehow we as humans tolerate the vulgar words of sexism more than the vulgar words of racism. [sg-janna]

Soulstealer Nami4/12/2018, 10:39:24 PM8 votes

Yeah, I agree 100%. Was playing Nami the other day and took exhaust because it's the summoner I prefer to take when playing support even though I like to play aggressively (and despite this account's name I'm actually a Taliyah/ADC main xdd). The enemy Kai'sa immediately asked if I was a girl because I took the less offensive summoner spell and implied a lot of really sexist things. He proceeded to say some other offensive shit in all chat. I wasn't really bothered too much by it, but even a male friend i was queued with thought it was really uncalled for. Just reported him after the game, doubt much came of it though tbh. Would love some sort of assurance that this kind of stuff is actually properly punished. Just as bad if not worse than racism imho.

This Is Your Dad4/13/2018, 1:27:29 AM6 votes

I don't get why guys are sexist in the first place. As a guy, I think girls playing video games is awesome. I've made a couple of friends off of here that are female, and some of them are really cute. I have no idea why you'd ruin your chances with a girl by acting like a child. And no, I don't try to flirt with girls on here. They tend to flirt with me first, possibly because I treat them as equals. Man-hating, women-hating, we don't need that. I think Riot did well when they published that piece on real relationships that came out of league.

CrazFight 4/12/2018, 10:13:27 PM6 votes

But like, it is. ?

Sp33d Zer04/12/2018, 10:11:54 PM6 votes

It is.

iii. Harassing, stalking or threatening other players while using the Riot Services;

Anomander4/12/2018, 10:40:08 PM5 votes

First there are varying tiers to sexism.... Some should be 0 Tolerance. Saying that they are worthless etc because of sex would be 0 tolerance for me. Saying "Hey bb make me a samich" is really rude and toxic but should not be 0 tolerance.

So sexism while def a toxic behavior should be taken seriously but not necessarily 0 tolerance.

Also sexism works both ways. If your going to have 0 Tolerance for any sexism then you need to ban for shit like "grow a pair" and "show some balls" and "act like a man". Technically all of those are sex specific insults that would be 0 tolerance.......

zPOOPz4/12/2018, 10:22:06 PM4 votes

put your pitchforks away

can you be punished for sexist harassment? Yes, you can. So why do you say it is "tolerated" if you will be punished for it?

A Pretty Unicorn4/13/2018, 1:03:47 AM4 votes

The victim blaming in this thread is awful. No reason women shouldn't be able to use their names in their summoner names just like the rest of us.

Bonnìe4/13/2018, 12:52:47 AM3 votes

theres a real difference between sexual banter two sided, funny and straight up sexual harassment/sexism one sided and toxic.

and i cant say ive gotten feedback on sexual harassment/sexism being punished unfortunately.

TrulyBland4/12/2018, 10:35:24 PM3 votes

I'd like to point out that the 4-letter c-word, which is the only proper sexist slur that I can come up with on the spot, is actually included in the list of zero tolerance phrases as far as I'm aware.

And that's the thing: Racism isn't actually an instant 14-day ban. Slurs are, be they racist or otherwise discriminatory. I can't say I've tried, but I can't imagine it being difficult to make extremely racist statements without receiving an instant 14-day ban.

And even though that sucks, it's pretty obvious that anything beyond that will require manual reviews that simply are not feasible with a game this size.

Soraka Rules4/12/2018, 10:57:39 PM2 votes

I got the instant feedback message recently and the only people I've reported are for sexism related things, so sexism is punishable. Such things I experienced- telling me call my pimp (when pinging needing x gold for y item), sexually explicit language (I'm only 16, pretty disturbing), and making me feel less of a person/player. I will go a whole game without talking and get hit by egirl/f*kboy remarks...

Rainfall4/12/2018, 10:13:16 PM2 votes

because women who put their name in videogames usually ask for that kind of attention,she could always just change her name.

DunkmasterDennis4/13/2018, 2:37:38 AM1 votes

{quoted}

just played a couple of games with a friend of mine,

http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=arammus

your match history seems to say otherwise

Ahri desu4/13/2018, 3:58:10 AM1 votes

You can't be friends with a girl either. Either you marry her or just stay away from her. You can't just stay with her and waste her time or find ways to abuse her in a horrible relationship. Before you continue on with your "friendship" I advice for you to stay away from her unless she really needs the help.

Like... objectifying her is one thing man. Just because she is a girl, it doesn't mean you should friend her so that you can maybe brag about her to others. Or make yourselves seem like a "popular" kid who is surrounded by many ladies.

Would you be happy with a man fooling around your girl? Also how did other people know that a girl is playing? Don't you know how a man look at a woman? Woman can't just announce that she is a woman in an environment mostly incorporated of man. Of course, if a man has only seen a man around him, if a girl appears, many man will react. Some will try to come close to her(perhaps what you did but instead in real) and some will attack her not knowing what to do with her sudden appearance.

To think that a man will not react in any way when a woman barge into their lives suddenly when a game is mostly man is very sexist. Man likes what is beautiful. Woman is beautiful and many man desire to have a woman. So, in an environment when a beautiful woman is never seen and suddenly is seen, man will naturally look at her.

I have no clue what is so confusing about this to you. A man will react this way of course. Maybe not in the same way, but will show some reaction regardless. The same way you approached her in the first place and perhaps told her about this game so that you can come closer to her. Though, if you will marry her, then GO AHEAD. But if you aren't and just using her as your past time, then just leave. This is for you and the girl's good.

What the guy said was inappropriate but to have empathy even for these people is what makes people... people. You are very mean if you simply look at the world through your own perspective and ignore others. Thinking as though you are perhaps "perfect"... perhaps arrogance is in there somewhere? Woman should not make her appearance in a male dominant area. She has her place of dominance and so does man. Woman should not force herself into a male area except through necessity.