New Accounts (Yes this belongs in Player Behavior)

Krakdotz·11/24/2018, 1:41:07 AM·1 votes·1,574 views

TLDR; Accounts who have been permabanned or suspended should ALSO have their (most common)IP flagged for a mute below level 10(?)

Hello,

I tend to make new accounts here and there to re-level and see where my rank hits, I always come back to playing this one. This is my main, I'm not ashamed of the primarily Silver/Gold standings.

Anyway, I made a new account last night to grind out to 30, I wanted to give some thoughts from my Tutorial and first 2 games experience. Riot, the tutorial is pretty cool now, and the way you unlock champs is really good so far (level 6).

The first PVP game I played was kind of a steam roll; seemed like my team got 4-5 smurfs and theirs had none. Sorry guys :(. Remember these are level 3 - 4 accounts, people don't have smite, we picked, a Warwick opted for Jungle, I chose Caitlyn ADC, Warwick after locking realized he didn't have Smite and called Bot. Warwick and another champ, I forget who, went bot. So I wandered up top, who cares it's a level 3 blind pick game. The Riven spam pinged me to back called everyone idiots, just really got savage on it right from the get go. Kept telling me to leave. She finally went and 3 manned Bot, but kept screaming at Warwick to stop kill stealing?

I left her unmuted, no one ever responded to her. She ended the game 1/3/4 and everyone else in the double digit kills. Again, sorry enemy team :(. It was an absolute toxic hell, if any of these players were even slightly tilt-able it would have tornado'd. But what I'm really here to talk about is, this is someone who's brand new to the games first impression of the game. The first match they play after the tutorial, has somebody screaming at them to leave a lane and calling them retarded? It's just unacceptable.

We need accounts who have been permabanned or suspended to ALSO have their (most common)IP flagged for a mute below level 10(?). If it's someone else on their network chances are they get past level 10 pretty quickly. Hopefully the additional punishment extends to reforming the actual offender as well?

I don't know, just my thoughts. What are yours?

Edit: I understand the thought's about other players on the same network. My Initial thinking is, maybe they could be understanding of the scenario as a whole? As long as we're clear we are talking this would never result in IP bans.

But maybe there's another solution. What about a cookie that downloads to the machine when it attempts to login and gets informed it's banned or suspended for the first time?

Lets make more to this conversation than just straight no's.

33 Comments

Icy Hot Shoto11/24/2018, 1:47:15 AM9 votes

What about college dorms? Or internet cafes? Or hotels?

Not everyone has a computer at home they can play League on. So what if someone gets permabanned at a college, and suddenly anyone who ever makes an account from that college is suddenly muted until level 10 with no clue why. That's a little unfair they're basically punished because of some stranger.

rujitra11/24/2018, 1:47:28 AM3 votes

So the issue with any IP based situation is it is guaranteed to affect at least some innocent players.

Riot does not punish innocent players, ever, at all, if they can avoid it.

This would be especially evident in an internet cafe, library, or public WiFi situation where you may inadvertantly prevent a new player from communicating just because someone recently got banned on their network.

ModUlanopo11/24/2018, 3:05:56 AM1 votes

Putting aside the "it would negatively affect innocent bystanders" argument - which remains an excellent reason to not do this - you do realize that it's not at all difficult to spoof the IP address, right?

AJStarhiker11/24/2018, 4:47:28 AM1 votes

I play league almost exclusively at a cybercafe. I use their computers. So do a lot of other people ranging from complete newbs to the LoL club from a local college.

Any kind of IP-based punishment would devestate the business.

Eleshakai11/26/2018, 6:44:56 PM1 votes

It's a horrible business decision. They'd scare off so many potential new customers. I don't think it's reasonable.

Arammus11/24/2018, 1:45:21 AM1 votes

my most common ip is... none. as i restart my router daily and thus change my ip every day.

also why a mute pre lv 10?

Faneseeker11/26/2018, 6:46:16 PM1 votes

good job ignoring this person, I bet the flamer left that game feeling less satisfied. lol

IP ban is a good idea, Register with real ID has also been discussed, it is just not practical for NA culture. Player base most likely will drop like flies if Riot was to ever force those two things.

They already do that in some regions.

Krakdotz11/24/2018, 2:30:47 AM1 votes

I understand the thought's about other players on the same network. My Initial thinking is, maybe they could be understanding of the scenario as a whole? As long as we're clear we are talking this would never result in IP bans.

But maybe there's another solution. What about a cookie that downloads to the machine when it attempts to login and get's informed it's banned or suspended for the first time?

Lets make more to this conversation then just straight no's.