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What's your guys opinion on DOTA's low priority que?

Zuil·12/26/2016, 9:25:27 AM·3 votes·676 views

For those who don't know, it's their punishment system for toxic players. Rather than banning toxic players, they're put in a separate que with people also in this que. Since majority of the player base isn't toxic, this que would have a long que time and the only way out is by winning whatever amount of wins you're assigned to. Since not insulting your team mates and not being toxic plays a part in helping a team win, it would maybe teach players how to be nice to one another OR simply just /mute them.

I'm suggesting this right now as even though Riot are normally very fair with their punishments and have a 4 level system of punishment (unless you really fuck up) but I feel like the 10 and 25 game chat suspensions don't do enough to scare players that they may get banned and that putting these people with similar players would do more justice to show what they're like and maybe would help them change their ways much sooner.

Thoughts?

12 Comments

Deep Terror Nami12/26/2016, 9:40:24 AM6 votes

Riot doesn't do a "Prisoner's Island" because it is not conducive to reforming the player (it's more likely to make them more toxic, or if they like that environment they don't change and it sucks for the people that do want to change). I agree with their decision in this matter; I see lots of players get punished because they are fighting with another toxic player, not necessarily the one that started it. Putting them with more toxic players intentionally is not going to help.

Now as for whether there should be additional punishments to promote reform and educate the player about the system, I definitely agree that there's room for improvement. An additional tier of temporary account bans or chat restrictions possibly, but it must also come with some way to make it more clear to the player where they are going wrong and how they might act in a more positive manner.

Strilter12/26/2016, 11:04:01 PM2 votes

I think it forces you to play the game a certain way. :D

no... in all ernest Heroes of the Storm has a similar system which I usually wind up in for leaving matches... The "toxic" que usually has the better players :D then again This isn't hots and it isn't dota either. The league community is toxic af and i'd even speculate the "toxic que" would have more players in it actually causing longer matchmaking timers for the regular que. Chat suspensions are a joke if someone wants to troll they are going to do it ... they don't need the chat for that ... there are in game emotes and plenty of champs that are ez to troll with. To the person below what part exactly of riots policies "reforms the player" were that the case there would be less and less people being a pain, not more and more. Honestly every one of their systems makes me more and more pissed off, and I have a shorter fuse. Which means? I report people more, they get penalized, I get penalized, we both get mad, we both hate the community more, ect...

xReadyPlayerOnex12/26/2016, 9:46:15 AM1 votes

It'd be a good idea to implement. I've had enough of being forced to play with people that have absolutely no business being in the same game as me and then are rude fucks about it.

KVbqbFsC8e12/26/2016, 9:18:29 PM1 votes

I don't think it would really help. There was similar thing when they handed our ranked bans, normal draft games became super toxic.

Ada Wong12/26/2016, 10:02:19 PM1 votes

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For those who don't know, it's their punishment system for toxic players. Rather than banning toxic players, they're put in a separate que with people also in this que. Since majority of the player base isn't toxic, this que would have a long que time and the only way out is by winning whatever amount of wins you're assigned to. Since not insulting your team mates and not being toxic plays a part in helping a team win, it would maybe teach players how to be nice to one another OR simply just /mute them.

I'm suggesting this right now as even though Riot are normally very fair with their punishments and have a 4 level system of punishment (unless you really fuck up) but I feel like the 10 and 25 game chat suspensions don't do enough to scare players that they may get banned and that putting these people with similar players would do more justice to show what they're like and maybe would help them change their ways much sooner.

Thoughts?

DOTA 2 LPQ is stupid it doesn't improve behavior at all, all it does is cause the player more stressfulness sticking them in a game with other LPQ players with random match-ups (It sucks) to get out of LPQ you might as well just take turns letting each team win a game lol...

The problem being with LPQ if you report people even if its false the reports eventually stack and the player gets punished regardless of anything they said meanwhile the other guy is using fouls on voice the entire time and nothing gets done...

DOTA 2 also needs Role Selection just like League because this is where players love to get toxic and argue causing a game to be lost or got a lot worse then flagging a player for being toxic when they are the ones yelling on voice which causes a LPQ it doesn't matter if you just end up muting everyone with your chat off either.