Could you imagine if sports players talked to each other the same way league players do

CrypticShantie·May 1, 2018·92 votes·19,416 views

walks over to other team "My fucking team sucks" "good game, team can't fucking play"

someone misses ball "fuck just stop playing" "holy, kill yourself"

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Velzard of KozMay 1, 201846 votes

One team wins over the other. The national anthem is interrupted by "GGEZ" screams.

Zed geniusMay 1, 201835 votes

"fuck just stop playing" "holy, kill yourself"

Sounds like Cristiano Ronaldo to me

JackMcSnipeyzMay 1, 201816 votes

Dont compare pro sports players to people who play sports casually. Whenever we used to play football just for fun, there was always banter, no one is gonna go over and shake their friends hand like they are in some pro league game, it's just a casual match.

Same for league (to an extent), in pro league (LCS) it's more easier to keep a pro enviorment, the players shake hands and work together because they are a team. In normal games it's like drafting a team on the school playground, you get random guys and just play no one cares about "the honor code" of sports when it's just a bunch of guys passing time playing a meaningless game.

OleandervineMay 1, 20186 votes

That's sensible, and is very true of the Professional level of the sports/eSports. However, even if you're in a minor league, you still have professional decorum. Let's call this minor league "Ranked." There should still be common decency and sportsmanship in the league you're playing in to hopefully progress towards professional level play. However, I see WAY too much negativity and toxicity in ranked games for this to be applicable. Point is, no matter what level of the game you play, you should always show decorum and some level of sportsmanship. You should never be a toxic cockroach who does nothing but flame his team or get instantly angry at any point in the game. Even in casual sports for fun, the guy who gets angry and starts blasting into a teammate will start a fight and get his teeth kicked into his asshole.

Slice n Dice emMay 2, 20183 votes

Let's call this minor league "Ranked."

no no no, lets not do that, minor league is equivalent to academy league or tournament league like 'EU Masters' or some other form of formal league where players, get to play with players they are familiar with or ok with. You can't expect anything from an anonymous person on the internet , whose name you will probably not remember after the game.

Imagine you are in football team, and there is one player who sks and doesn't listen to any of your calls, what will you think about him? Surely you don't wanna hurt his feelings and say bad things, but those things will always be in your thoughts. Now in a league setting where there is anonymity, you have no obstacle to tell the truth or how you feel about him.

MorticianjohnMay 2, 20181 votes

As someone who plays a lot of street basketball and pickup volleyball I can safely say that pickup games in any sport are less toxic than League of Legends.

JackMcSnipeyzMay 2, 20183 votes

Not gonna deny that obviously, but that's because on the internet you get to be anonnymous.

RainfallMay 1, 201814 votes

have you ever seen kids play football?

princeblumpkinMay 2, 20189 votes

"First time QB?"

"Never play Point Guard again."

"GG troll Second Basemen."

"Report Goalkeeper boosted."

Warlord ScrapMay 3, 20181 votes

The words change the shit talking doesnt. And saying because the phrases aredifferent it doesnt count isnaive at best.

remakoroMay 1, 20188 votes

OP clearly had no childhood and never did sports as well.

CrypticShantieMay 2, 20181 votes

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OP clearly had no childhood and never did sports as well.

well actually, I played soccer growing up and lots of hockey, football, and basketball in my free time with friends and other random people. Always playful banter but never any real rage or anti-social behaviour that's constantly seen in this game lol.

remakoroMay 2, 20182 votes

are you perhaps from Canada?

CrypticShantieMay 3, 20181 votes

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remakoroMay 3, 20181 votes

I guess that explains it XD

Pandemic PunchMay 1, 20187 votes

Sports players DO talk like this to each other. Have you ever played a sport?

Big LincolnMay 1, 20186 votes

didn't realize I was a professional league player

BALDG1VEN BOOMERMay 1, 20186 votes

Video games aren't a sport.

AyzevMay 1, 20184 votes

Chess is. Why can't video games be?

BALDG1VEN BOOMERMay 2, 20181 votes

Definition of sports.

an activity involving** physical exertion** and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Boiled TrianglesMay 1, 20185 votes

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Video games aren't a sport.

What an antiquated post

AntelathMay 2, 20183 votes

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What an antiquated post

He is right tho, Video Games are an E Sport :^)

DraehlMay 1, 20185 votes

They sort of do, but only to the other team :P

It can actually be really entertaining to watch- IE the Aqib Talib & Michael Crabtree scuffle from last year...

NevurwinMay 1, 20184 votes

yea this happens a lot in sports. Getting into your opponents head is half the battle. happens all the time in basketball, football, and hockey. They just don't disrespect their own team, its targeted all towards the opposing players.

thedamagedMay 1, 20183 votes

go play a game of pickup basketball.

Risen29May 1, 20183 votes

Gordon Ramsey talks to his kitchen team the way LOL players talk to thier team.

CrypticShantieMay 2, 20181 votes

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Gordon Ramsey talks to his kitchen team the way LOL players talk to thier team.

lol, well hey if a Challenger player wants to come onto my team and give me constructive shit then by all means ...

AntelathMay 4, 20181 votes

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lol, well hey if a Challenger player wants to come onto my team and give me constructive shit then by all means ...

Let me Touch you.

https://imgur.com/a/DZurAdK

ˉˉˉˉˉˉMay 1, 20183 votes

If they're randomly assigned together without ever having met each other before, or plan on meeting again, then...

Then yeah. I could totally imagine that.

Kiss my ªssMay 2, 20183 votes

To be fair, if you played soccer and one of your teammates started shooting the ball into your net (Feeding) i'm sure your team would not be stoked about it.

Lost RMay 2, 20183 votes

Oh they do it in real life. Sometimes it involves the manager screaming at you until he turns purple and throwing staplers like a Touhou boss. Sometimes it involves random retail customers snapping like a dry twig and trying to jump the counter to gut you like a fish and bathe in your chest cavity in response to you being out of their favored brand of tobacco (anyone who works in retail can empathize).

And don't even get me started on mass shooters and domestic terrorists.

The main difference is in real life, people can actually try to commit real violence against you. We decided the best reaction to that was to arm everyone, including the psychopaths just seconds away from forever losing their shit.

MillForMeMay 3, 20181 votes

I will upvote this for bullet hell staplers.

zZ KanKuro ZzMay 1, 20182 votes

i had someone like that in my class once (without the "holy, kill yourself" part)

big boi edriMay 1, 20182 votes

how i imagine kids raging in chat

https://m.popkey.co/77d210/rOm36.gif

AfricaBestLeeSinMay 2, 20182 votes

man, i have a question. I have a game with at least 4 Chinese players on both team. The enemy team call me black, African and flame me. Talked trash words to me. So, i said: chingchong, go back to China. And later only I got banned for 14 days. Do you think its fair?

xelakerMay 2, 20181 votes

That you were reported and got punished for using a racial slur? yes, fair indeed.

AfricaBestLeeSinMay 2, 20181 votes

They also use racial, but none of them got banned. That's my problem

lil kodaMay 3, 20182 votes

you got offended that they called you... black? your name is AFRICAbestleesin.. like really?

SanKakUMay 2, 20181 votes

Neither of those are the 'magic slur' word needed to get them banned. Just because flamed you, doesn't mean they used slurs.

This Is Your DadMay 2, 20181 votes

What's even funnier is imagining these people facing off in real life. Sure there are some buff dudes but I picture a bunch of fat people or skinny, malnourished people raging at each other and it just makes me laugh so hard.

Baka RedMay 2, 20181 votes

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What's even funnier is imagining these people facing off in real life. Sure there are some buff dudes but I picture a bunch of fat people or skinny, malnourished weeaboos raging at each other and it just makes me laugh so hard.

I found that funny, except for your use of racial slur there.

http://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/weeaboo/

"Where does weeaboo come from? _ The word weeaboo came about as a alternative for the term Wapanese, a blend of white or wannabe with Japanese. Wapanese was used extensively on the website 4chan in the early 2000s to insult white people who were deemed overly fond of and biased towards Japanese culture, particularly popular exports like anime, manga, and hentai. The abusive term was added to the online Racial Slur Database in 2004. "_

I wonder if Riot knows it is a racial slur and thus one of those instant punishment words they should have in their system. I doubt they do.

This Is Your DadMay 3, 20181 votes

Hm, I was unaware that it was. My apologies. I will remove it then. I just heard it used a lot as a nonoffensive term joke so I'll learn something new today, thank you.

Baka RedMay 3, 20181 votes

I believe that most people are like you and don't consider that a racial slur. However, there are those who don't 'like' the word and actually consider that as a racial slur. I am not exactly sure if I belong to that group or not, but I do feel little bit annoyed at the frequency I see that insult thrown out into the air even if it doesn't hit that close to home in my case. I am anime fan (as many can see from my name), so that part of the definition applies to me, but I hardly consider japanese culture superior to any other culture - just different. Heh, and I don't want to be japanese. I am happy enough as I am. Do I have to be black to consider the "N word" an insult?

PS: I guess this is enough about this matter, so this discussion won't hijack the thread (that appears to be dead anyways).

Best Ekko NAMay 3, 20181 votes

I played many sports from 2nd grade up until my senior year of high school and I have to say that it's not that different. I've been hazed, shit talked, and even beat up by my own teammates on different sports teams. Some of the students from my teams were suspended and kicked off the team for their behaviors. People are people, anywhere you go. It's not the game which dictates the behavior, it is the person.

When someone is not put under pressure, they usually will not exhibit unusual behaviors like these. In more casual video games, this is why the illusion exists that there is a "better" community -- but that simply is not true. If the casual game had a stimulus which could not be overcome via a pay to win barrier (anything that requires thought or skill), the behavior of a lot of players would change.. and some would probably quit.

Different individuals handle stress in different ways. While some are carefree and can readily accept their mistakes and defeat, others have a much more difficult time letting it go. In players who have trouble coping with inability to succeed, this either leads to motivation to improve or outright frustration.. which often is vented on others.

I'm not here to say I'm some PhD in Psychology, but I do indeed believe that the type of game that League of Legends is, is a major factor in causing these behaviors (but not the fact that it's a video game in itself). Competitive games cause stress, it doesn't matter if it is an online video game, or a sport in real life.

EagleEye007May 4, 20181 votes

Sounds like you had some shitty teammates in school. I played baseball from the time I was age 4 until I was in university and played 4 years of varsity football in highschool, and never once did I run into anyone like what you described. Worst I ever saw was a guy who got way too amped up on a no-pads practice night before a game and knocked me out on what was supposed to be a half speed kickoff drill. Guy was super apologetic about it.

I think the difference between that and LoL is you have faces to your teammates. You can physically see they're other living people instead of faceless names on a screen. Anonymity of the Internet brings out shitty parts of a lot of people.

Best Ekko NAMay 5, 20181 votes

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Sounds like you had some shitty teammates in school. I played baseball from the time I was age 4 until I was in university and played 4 years of varsity football in highschool, and never once did I run into anyone like what you described. Worst I ever saw was a guy who got way too amped up on a no-pads practice night before a game and knocked me out on what was supposed to be a half speed kickoff drill. Guy was super apologetic about it.

I think the difference between that and LoL is you have faces to your teammates. You can physically see they're other living people instead of faceless names on a screen. Anonymity of the Internet brings out shitty parts of a lot of people.

Baseball really is a casual sport, which might be a factor at work. The games are long and drawn out, and typically the only stress you have is going up to bat which isn't a constant thing. I'm not sure what schools you attended but my area is considered a Division 1 region with quite a number of people, which generally also means more competition for spots on the sports teams. Making the team alone for Basketball is difficult, let alone actually being able to start in a position. For Football and Track, it wasn't as difficult to get on the teams but getting to start in one of the positions was because there was a lot of people and not many spots.

Another thing worth consideration is the crowd -- the majority of people who play video games on computers are more removed and less social than other people. Almost no one that I know in person actually plays games on the computer. While not 100% related, it's probably not far off to say that computer gamers as a whole are more likely to "rage" and vent on another than someone from a real life sports team. The same could also be said from someone who lives in a gaming house with other people (the pro LoL players). They aren't going to be inclined to going off on anyone because the game itself has become part of their social life.

Like I mentioned originally however, not every person is the same. Most players do not even take League seriously, so despite the stress they are able to shrug it off. From those that do take the game seriously, some people are better at handling stress than others, which would make it much easier for them to keep from tilting. Then skill also needs to be put in the equation because being bad at the game leads to more "bad" situations and frustrations. I believe this is a big part of why 1 and 5 divisions have it so badly. Some players get lucky and make it to the next Tier without the appropriate skill, which is likely frustrating.

EagleEye007May 7, 20181 votes

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I suppose the competition level is at play for sure, but I think more just varies from person to person like you touched on in your last paragraph. I've known plenty of guys who were happy just to be bench warmers if it meant getting the guys ahead of them were legitimately better, because it gave them a goal to shoot for and also gave them someone to learn from. Likewise I once ended up coaching my own replacement as a catcher on our team because he had a stronger throwing arm and just needed help on mostly his footwork and pitch framing. I didn't mind because even though it meant changing positions it led to more team wins.

Which I think is the crux of the problem with LoL and a lot of matchmaking games in general; there's no reason to help your teammates if that's not your innate personality. You're not gonna see probably upwards of 90% of these guys ever again.

And yeah, divisions 1 and 5 are a shit show. Makes me wonder if they'd be better or worse off doing what WoW did (still does maybe?) and calculate where you placed at the end of the season based on what percentile you fell into. Would feel worse in that you don't really see progression, but you wouldn't have the odd hodgepodge of player skills all allegedly the same rank.

Thanks for the food for thought!

GloricMay 4, 20181 votes

They often do in the non-professional circuit, plenty of people are forced out of teams due to the bullying that goes on.
If a player intentionally throws and trolls games they are kicked out and banned form the club, quick fucking smart, no exceptions, either that or beaten to a pulp in the locker rooms, both even.

Don't compare a game that rewards anonymous trolls, feeders and trolling to a organized team sport though, doesn't really work out.

Compare it more to a bunch of ice heads locked in a room with ear busting music all trying to play 1 chord on a single guitar.