Just recieved a chat restriction for this 1 game.

Botlane Draven·8/9/2019, 10:23:45 PM·4 votes·5,629 views

Game 1 Pre-Game Main Bruiser: Samurai any chance we can trade roles? Main Bruiser: I only adc Main Bruiser: ty In-Game Main Bruiser: do not Main Bruiser: ping me Main Bruiser: ? Main Bruiser: ?? Main Bruiser: ? Main Bruiser: Spam pinging when you're already late? Main Bruiser: thats something you call at the start of the match Main Bruiser: not 1:05 in and spam ping Main Bruiser: typical toxic players Main Bruiser: ? Main Bruiser: yes Main Bruiser: it is Main Bruiser: blaming Main Bruiser: spam pinging Main Bruiser: >picking a countered support then calling me inting Main Bruiser: Yeah chat logs bud. Main Bruiser: Lux you were last pick lol Main Bruiser: Calling me inting is toxic asf Main Bruiser: It is Main Bruiser: ? Main Bruiser: kk bud. Main Bruiser: You're accusing me of intentionally feeding? Main Bruiser: That's what int means. Chat logs will show btw. Main Bruiser: You're being very toxic. Main Bruiser: You're accusing your teamate Main Bruiser: That's so unreal. You've been accusing me of intentionally feeding all game, so I call out you being toxic for flaming Main Bruiser: And so you lobby for reports in all chat? Chat logs will show. You are toxic. Main Bruiser: You've been flaming all game. Main Bruiser: More flame. Trying to act like you aren't. Main Bruiser: Inting isnt critisism Main Bruiser: You havent provided any constructive criticism at all.. Main Bruiser: Just pure toxic flaming and act innocent. Main Bruiser: Being bullied more like. Main Bruiser: And you expect me to have a clear mind Main Bruiser: when you've been bullying/flaming the entire game, now called me "braindead" Main Bruiser: This lux will not stop flaming me...calling me "braindead" constant toxcitity ever since my 1st/2nd death. :/ Post-Game Main Bruiser: Lux extremely toxic all game Main Bruiser: constant flaming Main Bruiser: namecalling, insulting.

This was the entire chat of that 1 game, only game shown/given as "Evidence". I recieved a chat restriction but no instant feedback report for the person who flamed, insulted, called me "autistic, braindead".

What are everyone's thoughts? Didn't realize simply calling out someone's Legitimate toxicity and being flamed all game was against the rules.

Not to mention the player received no penalty. Lobby'd for me to be report'd in /all chat for no reason. Quite sickening...tbh..this system and whatever it's real motives are.

9 Comments

Tele II8/9/2019, 10:36:31 PM4 votes

Theres no way for you to know if they recieved any penalty, so maybe edit that part out. It only hurts your arguement when you make things up like that. You were penalized for excessively arguing over shit that doesnt benefit the team in any way. It actually negatively impacts everyones experience because now they got two teammates spending their time arguing in chat the entire time.

Like who wants that? I wouldve muted and reported you both. Just drop it and play the game, like why is discussing who is being toxic important at all? It distracts from the task at hand (which is playing the game we all signed on to play) and so Riot punishes for it, the person who started it, and anyone who argues and keeps it going.

Thats the motive. To deter petty bickering amongst teammates so that those who just want to play hopefully wont have to deal with people holding arguements and debates in the middle of their games. Im sorry you had to learn this by getting punished. I wish they were more clear in the rules, perhaps they are, idk, ive never actually read the rules lol. I only know them by using the forums.

AatroxKin8/9/2019, 10:39:37 PM3 votes

Maybe it is because you are toxic

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Bubble Troublè8/16/2019, 12:11:45 AM2 votes

"What are everyone's thoughts?"

Riot is so desperate to have better optics surrounding toxicity that they just set their AI loose like dogs chat restricting anyone who gets flamed and says shit back.

KFCeytron8/10/2019, 4:09:38 AM2 votes

So, it has come to this: someone displayed misbehavior in a LoL match in flagrant disregard for the game's rules, ToS, EULA, and Summoner's Code. That's unfortunate, and I'm sorry you had to deal with it. If this misbehavior happened in chat (including emotes or ping) and they don't respond positively to a single, courteous, constructive request to focus on the game, your best option is to mute that player. Submit a report after the match. This is equivalent to dealing with a noisy person in a library by asking them to keep it down and then notifying library staff and moving to another area.

Do not respond with misbehavior of your own! If you do that, your teammates may mute and report you, and those reports would be valid. This is equivalent to dealing with a noisy person in a library by getting into a shouting match with them. Just because someone else started it doesn't justify you in continuing it. I'm sure you're familiar with the "s/he started it" trope, where two children get into an argument or fight and then try to claim innocence of any wrongdoing by claiming that they didn't instigate it. As any parent, teacher, or other supervisor of children will tell you, that excuse doesn't fly. When Dad is trying to drive you to Disneyland and your annoying brother starts making faces at you as he's previously been told not to, you should calmly ask him to stop, and then, if that doesn't work, calmly notify your parents of the problem. Making faces at him or shouting at him has never been a good way to get him to stop, and it makes you just as guilty of that as he.

Riot doesn't care who started it. Someone else's misbehavior does not justify your own.

From Riot's support knowledgebase:

  • Simply speaking, retaliation is not an acceptable or justifiable behavior. An argument between two players can easily create a negative experience for the rest of the players in the game with you. Regardless of the other player’s actions, this does not justify your own behavior. You alone are responsible for your actions within the game.If you encounter a toxic player like this, the best option is to simply report their behavior and move on.
  • Reports are a vital piece to the puzzle. If you are not sure of what sort of behavior is reportable take a look at the Reporting a Player FAQ

If you misbehave but a teammate or opponent does or says something even worse, you should definitely report them after the match, just as someone reported you for your own misbehavior. Yes, that's certainly possible. Reports are not a limited resource. Any time someone believes that another player violated LoL's behavioral standards, they can report that player. Punishments are similarly not limited: if more than one player in a game merits a punishment, they can both get a punishment. This can happen even if the players in question were antagonizing each other. The IFS doesn't need to weigh the severity of all reported players' actions and then "award" the "winner" with a punishment; it's not a contest.

Think of it like dealing with a noisy person in a library: ask them to keep it down, and then notify library staff and move to another area if that doesn't work. If you get into a shouting match with them, you're just as likely to be removed, even if you weren't shouting quite as loudly as they were. The goal is a quiet library.

In a perfect and just world, everyone who deserved a punishment would get one. In reality, it is possible for some punishable behavior to go unpunished. First, punishments in LoL can only occur after a valid report. Second, punishments take into account the consistency and severity of the punished player's misbehavior: if two players in a match break the same rule in the same way, one who consistently misbehaves in this way might get a punishment while the other who almost never does so gets away without a punishment (this time). At the end of the day, though, all this does is explain how differences in player behavior over many games can produce different results for equivalent behavior within a single game. It doesn't excuse poor behavior. One person having a rare bad day doesn't give a consistently toxic player the right to join in. The only behavior that matters in your punishment is your own... and a good thing, too: how would you feel if you behaved yourself but got punished anyway just because all your teammates were spectacularly friendly, communicative, and positive?

From Riot's support knowledgebase:

We can not discuss other players’ actions with you but you can always report them at end of game and mute them when in game. There is no excuse for raging back or responding to people trying to get you to tilt. You are the only one responsible for your actions and your words which is what we are trying to address with these bans.

You weren't punished for misbehaving in one game. You were punished for misbehaving in one more game, in a consistent pattern of negative behavior that breaks the game's rules. Additionally, the reform card doesn't always show all the logs that led to your punishment: it randomly selects up to several logs. You might see three logs, but you also might see as few as one, even for players whose punishment stems not from a small number of egregious infractions but rather from dozens of instances of mild toxicity. The purpose of the reform card is to tell you how to reform, so it shows you an example of the behavior that prompted your punishment and explains that such behavior is inappropriate and should be avoided if you want to maintain an account in good standing.

Literally every single chat message you wrote during and after the game was to argue, spam "?", call teammates toxic, condescend, and be passive-aggressive. Clogging chat with that kind of drama is annoying for everyone, not just the one you're arguing with. If you find it "sickening" that someone lobbied (not "lobby'd") for you to be reported (not "report'd"), what would you call your post-game chat, where you complained about the Lux and accused them of breaking the rules? If that wasn't intended to get people to report that player without technically using the word "report," then what was the point? Were you venting? In short, it looks like you were trying to misbehave as much as possible without getting a punishment, but you don't know where the line is.

AB Thistle8/12/2019, 6:00:55 AM2 votes

It could be that the person you reported also reported you. And because you repeated back some of their words, you were in turn chat restricted (a quick search for keywords was probably used in sifting through the chat transcript). This does not mean that the other person was not sanctioned however.

MuteAllForeverer8/10/2019, 12:38:06 AM1 votes

Usually, for chat restrictions, theirs more than 1 game, like 3 games. So either you didn't put those in or you were unfairly punished. You didn't insult anyone, I don't think "brain dead" avoids the system, it doesn't count "".

Put a ticket in for riot support, they will be back to you within a day to resolve the ban.

Famous Gay Actor8/10/2019, 4:55:39 AM1 votes

Well, you are never informed of when a player receives a penalty from a report you make against them. There is a reason for this. Disciplinary actions are meant to be handled by Riot Games and the only people who are informed of their punishments and can discuss them are Rioters and the punished player. Riot recently implemented a small card that says "Hey, a player you reported recently was given a punishment. Thanks for helping out." This does not show up every time (it only shows up about 10% of the time) but it's Riot's way of saying, "We got you" and "Don't worry, the reporting system works."

If you're expecting to be rewarded by Riot for reporting a toxic player, that says a lot about you. The report system is not there to make you feel better. It's there to inform Riot of players who make the experience unpleasant so they can encourage reform through punishments or remove them entirely if they refuse to change.

PathToImprove8/10/2019, 2:58:19 AM1 votes

Imo, don't type because this appears to be low rank and theres legit no way you can win if you are typing that much and trying to have punctuation proper. just hit mute.... nothing you say is going to penetrate the THICCCCC skull teammates you have. Better off just pinging and muting because Riot tends to punish the people that type back rather the people trolling or flaming you. If you have a lot of messages you are more likely to get banned just keep it short sweet with a GJ when they die and then mute them. Can't get banned.

RISE Shlack1238/10/2019, 3:53:59 AM1 votes

Assuming this was truly the only game in your feedback, you need to appeal the ban. And use the damn mute button ffs...