Can we please talk about hashinshin

haenex·5/8/2018, 8:39:43 AM·12 votes·12,265 views

BEFORE WE TALK WATCH DEKAR NEWEST VIDEO

Am gonna make my point clear why does he get to flame riot balance and flame OTHER PLAYERS AND INT but does not get the same kind of ban that t1 got when he was toxic t1 ban was a good job on riot don't even argue he was toxic he inted on purpose and flamed every player then he it took him an year to reform then he got unbanned again good job riot but so WHY don't they do the same thing to hashinshin?

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T I L T B O I5/8/2018, 8:41:19 AM10 votes

because he's not doing what tyler1 did and anyone can flame the balance team, they choose to completely ruin a who lane or class at a time knowingly and intentionally

Cocho5/8/2018, 10:20:43 AM8 votes

t1 ran it down mid

hash just suicide pushes basically, in hopes that his team does what he beleives to be the right play. He is still trying to win in those games. It either works or it doesnt

AeroWaffle5/8/2018, 10:11:35 AM8 votes

I watched the latest vid and I'm not seeing substantial evidence of him intentionally feeding. Tilting off the face of the earth and playing bad, but not intentionally feeding.

As for their in-game behavior I would recommend you report them at the end of the game screen. Only the people in game has any business deciding if a report is sent. If there are no reports it is assumed that the people they are playing with is fine with their behavior and that's what matters. Their twitch behavior is the business of twitch.

Smitty Manjensen5/8/2018, 10:06:02 AM5 votes

Tyler fanboys are getting more pathetic by the day. Trying to excuse that piece of shit with another piece of shit, who isn't even 5% as toxic as Tyler is.

nelogis5/8/2018, 10:48:48 AM4 votes

I don't recall Hashinshin literally running it down mid in 50% of his games and throwing around 0 tolerancy words around like there is no tomorrow.

Everyone says "Idiot" "Fuck you" "Dumbass stfu"

At least once in a game, banning them for that would be retarted and don't come here with your white knight wannabe "I never said something like that!", you at least said something at some point in your league career. Getting banned for that seems stupid.

When it comes to insulting the balance team

a) If he just says it and doesn't type anything then that has nothing to do with League anymore and is Twitch's responsibility.

b) I don't think insulting the balance team actually leads to a ban. You aren't insulting any player or person specifically. It's like saying League Reddit is a bunch of white knights and a giant hive-mind. That is an insult but not really a bannable one when it comes to in game chat.

Ofc if the insult has 0 tolerance stuff in it then it will get punished either way.

Hashinshin might not be mother teresa but banning him for like 2 insults per game seems uhh... especially if you talk about a ban like T1's.

MakronZeta5/8/2018, 9:25:23 AM3 votes

hashinshin is not as popular as tyler1 and he honestly rages way less. However, chances are that he will get banned aswell or he will get a sort of pre ban advice from a riot empolyee. P.S: Famearmor? Wtf? You have more chances to get banned while playing and streaming, plus if you're a famous person you're considered uneducative and Riot sees you as a person damaging the company. I've noticed people like Tarzaned avoiding to stream when ultra tilted to avoid this type of ban.

Neptunia xoxo5/8/2018, 9:59:14 AM3 votes

Because tyler1 actually ran down mid with mobi boots until the game is over and I mean run down mid by running through multiple towers until death over and over on multiple accounts and game after game. You don't see Hash doing this and his raging and such is pretty average for the community lol there are WAY worse people who are not banned and even ones who are currently in pro play as well.

Turtles Are Okay5/8/2018, 3:24:40 PM2 votes

I suggest you stop watching streams, you're in a very dangerous state of "everything is int".

He's not being toxic to his team-mates, almost never. I don't know, compared to 90% of the people screeching slurs and so on, I'd say he's pretty chill. So if 90% of the player-base is extremely toxic, will you ban him for saying stuff like "ok I thought I had a jungler" which is at best asshole-ish?

If so, will you ban the rest 90% which are way worse?

Hashishin is fine. Unfortunately you're being influenced by his condescending tone, which blurs your vision around him.

I suggest you take a second look and analyze if it's your perception that's wrong or he's really toxic (in comparison to others).

UnCane6/26/2018, 6:52:22 AM1 votes

Hashinshin’s ego appears well inflated, and though he holds knowledge and dedication to the game he fails to adhere to the conduct standard riot has in place for players. Though not necessarily inting he streams his negative behavior along with being outspoken in games via text in a way that I cannot imagine is condoned. Perhaps players expect this from him and fail to report it, but I imagine he has received some form of warning regarding his behavior/harassment of teammates. Perhaps what’s posted online focuses on his more malicious moments, but it appears often enough to have warranted some response even if it’s simply a temporary chat restriction.

Wínters Dawn6/26/2018, 6:55:25 AM1 votes

*I want to see someone get in trouble!!

Fixed your post op

Eternal Torment5/8/2018, 9:00:10 AM1 votes

Because no one knows. Hashinshin has raged on cam before, badmouthed and if im not misinformed even slanders riot for their balancing, ints here and there with very public evidence to support these claims...

Honestly idk why. Famearmor probably. Thats my only logical guess

Arammus5/8/2018, 10:18:24 AM1 votes

whos dekar?

flameing the balance team is nothing negative. im 100% sure every lol streamer did that at some point. and well deserved.

hashinshin should have a CR by now in my opinion because he does flame from time to time. but maybe noone reports him. and he isnt inting. so yea

. . . also knowing how lazy riot is and some rioter i wont name saying "tyler1 made me so much trouble i hope he dies from steroids" i feel like riot doesnt want to creater another "tyler1" by permabanning him for life and just makeing him more fame and more ppl complain. would be too much work for riot. majority of "high elo" streams i saw were a horrible idol.

hi ìm groot5/8/2018, 10:26:50 AM1 votes

He just takes every fight. Its not technically inting but it basically means if he's behind even a little, his team loses game off it. Seen high elo junglers bitch that if he's in your game it forces you to play all about top lane, because he's going to fight none stop, and either you focus his lane, or you lose.

Rayjay Redfang5/8/2018, 11:40:47 AM1 votes

1)He is not toxic, he is bitching as per usual

  1. he doesn't int. I don't want to say that he is a bad player but he does a lot of stupid plays thinking that he can win a duel. He doesn't respect his opponents power
TS Media5/8/2018, 3:14:10 PM1 votes

You bring up Dekar, who also flames his teammates and ints games when things don't go his way. And don't get me wrong, Dekar is lowkey my favorite streamer. Hash is just way more aggressive in chat, but he doesn't go all out like most people do with his flame. He just points out what he thinks is mistakes in others gameplay, rather than focusing on his own.

EvilDustMan5/8/2018, 4:08:55 PM1 votes

If he's being toxic in chat, he'll get banned.

Unfortunately, twitch viewers like assholes so being an asshole outside of chat is a good way to make money.

YerroFever5/8/2018, 4:47:56 PM1 votes

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BEFORE WE TALK WATCH DEKAR NEWEST VIDEO

Am gonna make my point clear why does he get to flame riot balance and flame OTHER PLAYERS AND INT but does not get the same kind of ban that t1 got when he was toxic t1 ban was a good job on riot don't even argue he was toxic he inted on purpose and flamed every player then he it took him an year to reform then he got unbanned again good job riot but so WHY don't they do the same thing to hashinshin?

I don't watch hashinshin so I don't know what you are talking about.

Hashinshin has the right to criticize balance as every player does. If he flames them in his stream/videos, that's his choice in how to express it, so long as he's not doing it in game or on the forums, it's fine because he isn't flaming Riot in their domain. If he wants to address Riot on the forums or in game if he plays with them, he needs to not flame them in game or on the forums but that's really the only rule. It's like if you wrote in a personal diary vs saying it in game. You can write horrible awful hateful things in your diary without consequence but if you say that to someone in game... you're going to have to deal with Riot's rules. Streams and videos are like personal diaries. It's out of Riot's domain and thus out of Riot's reach for behavior rules.

Regarding flaming other players... From watching some videos of Tyler1, I can tell you that Tyler1 flamed people in game. He would type out awful things to people and that contributed to Tyler1's prior ban. Does Hashinshin type out his toxicity and flame in game or does he just rant and rave in his videos/streams? If he doesn't type it out to other players, that's totally fine as it's not being toxic to other people, he's just being toxic in his room and if you choose to watch him saying awful things, that's your choice as a viewer.

Inting is something that is hard to detect based on how easily the old inting methods were caught. Does he just blatantly run under tower like Tyler1 used to with full tears in his inventory? People have made inting harder to detect because they want to keep their accounts but still grief other players.