Playing passively tilts people.

Madjack01·1/14/2019, 1:18:30 PM·7 votes·6,806 views

I believe the worst toxicity I have ever seen came not from people feeding or being jerks, but from people being annoyed by someone playing passively

I wonder where this comes from?

There are advantages to both ends of the spectrum between playing safe and playing aggressively.Yet in my experience the playing passively part can make people explode.

If I would have to guess then I'd say that the problem here is that passive teammates generally force a passive playstyle on the rest of the team because the alternative would be going in alone and well... dying.

Also in an environment where people tend to assume that their actions are the right ones, not getting back up can probably be perceived as teammates being bad.

Anybody else experienced this? What abou passive players do you think triggers some people?

21 Comments

GatekeeperTDS1/14/2019, 3:32:02 PM4 votes

You're absolutely right. Actually, I can expand your thought about passive play into a larger category -

Certain people get tilted by any action that they don't agree with or think is "right" at the time. In your example, playing passively is what did it. But we've all been in the game where someone got tilted because another teammate played too aggressively. Or they pick a champion in champ select that someone decided wasn't good for the team comp. Or they're buying items that someone doesn't agree with.

It's all ego on the part of these people who get tilted - they focus so much on what their teammates have decided is best (which we're all entitled to do) and barking orders at them, that they stop focusing on themselves and lose sight of what's actually important - focusing on what the enemy is doing and destroying their nexus.

R107 Games1/14/2019, 2:27:19 PM2 votes

I hate having passive teammates because they seem to be more concerned with helping themselves than their team.

I hate playing against passive enemies because it's boring as fuck.

Umbral Regent1/14/2019, 5:30:07 PM2 votes

I have (unfortunately) had to deal with getting frustrated over a teammate's passive playstyle, and, while I thankfully haven't exploded on anyone for it, I still wind up getting irritated from time to time over this.

GatekeeperTDS put it pretty perfectly;

Certain people get tilted by any action that they don't agree with or think is "right" at the time.

I can't speak for others, but I can say with absolute certainty that this is the case for me. I have confidence in my micro play and generally have a good feel for when is the time to strike and when is the time to hold back, but, what goes through my mind isn't simultaneously going through my teammates' mind - or, if it is, it's not going through the same way it is for me.

That desync causes one of us (me) to act on what we perceive as a golden opportunity, while the other (teammate) tries to play things safer and wait for a better opening, or better timing (such as a gank). Sure, they'd probably follow up as a reflex, but every split-second of delay feels like whole minutes, and feeling like my teammate isn't ready to act when it's necessary really, really bites.

Even if it's a deluded, self-centered thinking.

It's also an issue that compounds itself when you add more to the scenario - in my case, I like to reach high Mastery Ranks, and getting S's is hard with a low KDA, so my glory-seeking tendencies mixed with my personal perception of how scenarios and fights should play out will inevitably result in bitterness.

PH451/14/2019, 5:43:57 PM2 votes

I personally start tilting if I just have to play passive for a really long time. For example a counter matchup in top lane, I can't really fight the enemy top laner so I just have to sit around my tower, and maybe even miss CS cause I can't take the poke. I have such a urge to fight the dude but I know I probably lose the fight. So basically I just trigger myself with passive play.

Rythmatic1/14/2019, 8:18:52 PM2 votes

People who play passive might as well be afk as they are just farm bots at that point. Usually results in losing massive cs and lane pressure. Characters like nasus actually promote people to just be afk bots until its way to late and the games just over as it was a 5v4 all game.

ı Sona ı1/14/2019, 8:44:42 PM2 votes

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I have (unfortunately) had to deal with getting frustrated over a teammate's passive playstyle, and, while I thankfully haven't exploded on anyone for it, I still wind up getting irritated from time to time over this.

Yikes. But why? Surely you have enjoyed a board game or watched a long movie or read a book. All of these are long investment things that help to build patience. As league is merely a colorful game of chess it has always been a patience game.

Patiently farming, patiently waiting for a gank, patiently waiting for team to group for an objective, patiently waiting for the tank/engagers to engage. etc. Many of my saddest losses have come from the most impatient players where 10 more seconds would of made all the difference.

Calm, cool, collected playing for the win.

[sona-playing]

AhriTentacleToy1/14/2019, 11:15:09 PM1 votes

It's not an issue of passive play. It's out right ignoring definite kills to get an extra cs that tilts people. You can be passive a lot, but if you know where enemy laners are, jg and as adc ignore yoyr support cc or double cc an out of position adc... your support will tilt from your basic incompetence.

Same applies when you jg ganks, ccs, and you ignore it to cc. Whe that jg ends up 1v1, 90% burst and enemy barely escapes... he will not return for you again most of the time.

Vulkus I1/15/2019, 1:30:27 PM1 votes

I get tiled when my enemy laner does nothing. Not because he's not "playing the game right", because it's just SO DAMN BORING.

Telephone Booth1/15/2019, 11:41:00 PM1 votes

All i know is in low ELO (like silver) people dont seem to have any sense of urgency to pressure the enemy team when theyre in an advantageous position. Some players will continue playing passively. You gotta press the fucking objectives with URGENCY. Start moving to the next objective AS your current objective is being completed. People tend to run away and back after an ace, just because they are really low health. Theres no URGENCY to win the damn game. Im sure this isnt the entirety of why passive play tilts people. Some people just look for ANYTHING they dont agree with as an excuse to flame. But some passive play comes off as "letting the enemy come back". Or like theyre basically playing a single player deathmatch with their opposing laner, not even seeming to consider that its a team game where kills arent the objective.

Hethalean1/14/2019, 1:30:09 PM1 votes

Yeah, I've experienced it. You can see streamers do it too. I watched Imaqtpie yesterday get a bit muffed by his lane opponents doing nothing. lol

MobileSuitGaren1/16/2019, 12:27:41 AM1 votes

I think the opposite is pretty toxic as well. Playing too aggressively can bring them under the "feeding and inting" category. Learning when to play either way is probably the least toxic.

Kurorade1/14/2019, 3:12:48 PM1 votes

I get tilted in the bot lane when my support plays passive, usually doesn't happen though since I duo. I do get tilted in solo lanes when I can't kill anything though.

Lauchmelder1/14/2019, 3:49:51 PM1 votes

I play passively because I a) don't want to give my enemy any chance to get an advantage b) want to tilt hyperagressive players for not getting a kill on me c) I'm the better player CS-wise compared to most of my enemies

Kei1431/14/2019, 6:08:13 PM1 votes

Sometimes my teammates play too scared. Especially against a Yi. They see the alpha strike start, I aim my CC at my bot laner on where Yi would appear and they run back so my CC whiffs. Then they go GG, support no peel.

Tilts me to no end.

STAND STILL AND LET MY CC LAND!! THAT 1 AA WON'T KILL YOU!!!

Sillae1/14/2019, 10:27:18 PM1 votes

Actual game : Zilean : Little more than half health Jinx : About half TahmKench hiding under turret and MissFortune backed jungler coming. Zilean pings warning in lane Jinx still csing Zilean slows , double stun bomb (low damage, still has about 85% health due to early game), speeds up Jinx and backs off Jinx stays for the last caster and almost gets eaten by TahmKench Jinx : WTF ZILEAN??? WHY WOULD YOU HEAD BACK BEFORE ME Zilean : The jungler was about to kill one or both of us? Jinx : You f---ing coward I need to cs you're f---ing useless

Well whatever. Hit level 6 saved Jinx from another gank and we got a triple kill, baby sat the Veigar since Darius kept diving him and ez win. I couldn't really flame the Jinx back because we were both doing well. I dunno why missing one caster early made her fly off the handle but after I saved her she stopped talking shit. Course, when I asked if she still thought I was useless she said..

"Ugh you need so much validation."

[sg-ezreal]

The Jinx was actually good, but man was she rude.

GigglesO1/14/2019, 10:34:12 PM1 votes

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I believe the worst toxicity I have ever seen came not from people feeding or being jerks, but from people being annoyed by someone playing passively

I wonder where this comes from?

Its because you want to make a play, but can't because your teammate is afk.

Players only play passively because it isn't fun to die, and deaths are near instant.

Lower Damage, problem solved.