Starting a game knowing you will lag

rtbf221651412·Apr 27, 2017·3 votes·1,447 views

Really should be a reportable offence.

If I know my wifi is bad, I will not play the game. It ruins the game for at most 4 other people. Others should do the same. There is also an easy way to know if you will lag. One is through a ping test via internet. Next is through the command prompt via windows. Another is via making a custom game with bots (passworded so nobody joins) and seeing your ping through there. You can see your ping via your settings.

If you are in a public area, you have no excuse for checking your ping. Period.

Can anyone suggest why, if someone directly complains about their network and continues their gaming, that it shouldn't be an offence?

21 Comments

DragfinApr 27, 20172 votes

You shouldn't be gaming on WiFi to begin with...

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/ethernet-vs-wifi-ping-packets-playing-better

rtbf221651412Apr 27, 20171 votes

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You shouldn't be gaming on WiFi to begin with...

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/ethernet-vs-wifi-ping-packets-playing-better

You mean how my wifi is usually a stable 37 or less ms?

DragfinApr 27, 20172 votes

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You mean how my wifi is usually a stable 37 or less ms?

Don't argue with facts. Read the article. Ignorance is bliss I guess for you and ruins games for others because it can be good one minute and shit the next. Try to help someone out but can't help ignorant people who think they are always right.

You are not right but feel free to argue anyway because that is your mentality.

rtbf221651412Apr 27, 20171 votes

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Don't argue with facts. Read the article. Ignorance is bliss I guess for you and ruins games for others because it can be good one minute and shit the next. Try to help someone out but can't help ignorant people who think they are always right.

You are not right but feel free to argue anyway because that is your mentality.

Yeah, tell that to people with T1, Fiberoptic cables, and etc. People with expensive networks and routers can handle connections well with wifi.

Don't argue with the wealthy. You will lose.

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TBcj3FxM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-27T20:12:25.935+0000)

...because people with bad and/or occasionally sporadic internet may still wish to play League, and there's nothing saying you have to have good internet in order to do so? Also because what counts as "lag" varies from person to person -- I'm used to shoddy internet, and can play pretty well at 350ms. Some friends with better connections get thrown off their game with their ping is as low as 120ms.

Did you read? I would like to play league but:

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It's called being responsible and is common sense.

You ruin other peoples games and feel it's ok to do that.

eldurisApr 27, 20171 votes

Yeah, tell that to people with T1, Fiberoptic cables, and etc. People with expensive networks and routers can handle connections well with wifi.

Don't argue with the wealthy. You will lose.

Wireless networks are not as stable as wired ones, regardless of equipment, simply due to the number of variables that can affect your connection on wireless vs wired.

A wireless connection can have poor signal based on proximity of your device to the router, interference from other devices, and a higher likelihood of packet loss. A wired connection does not have to worry about these variables, as you are literally plugged in to the modem or router (depending on your setup). It doesn't matter how much money you spend on equipment, a 2.4 GHz connection will always be susceptible to interference from other wireless devices and a 5 GHz connection suffers from low broadcast range. It's these limitations that make wireless an inferior choice, limitations that no amount of money can compensate for.

rtbf221651412Apr 27, 20171 votes

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Wireless networks are not as stable as wired ones, regardless of equipment, simply due to the number of variables that can affect your connection on wireless vs wired.

A wireless connection can have poor signal based on proximity of your device to the router, interference from other devices, and a higher likelihood of packet loss. A wired connection does not have to worry about these variables, as you are literally plugged in to the modem or router (depending on your setup). It doesn't matter how much money you spend on equipment, a 2.4 GHz connection will always be susceptible to interference from other wireless devices and a 5 GHz connection suffers from low broadcast range. It's these limitations that make wireless an inferior choice, limitations that no amount of money can compensate for.

Yes I know wired is better. The thing is I can be wireless and right next to a router, which basically makes the entire wifi argument null to a larger degree, albeit not entirely. If I lived where I used to live with the internet I used to have and the router I used to have, I would agree. However, if my ms is stable enough, there is no problem, now is there? My definition of stability is:

Lagging once or less within a period of 1-2 hours. Considering I'm on my computer for hours, I know what stable looks like. In fact, I wouldn't be on wifi if it was that bad. The router is positioned in a certain spot where interference affects it the least. If I go near one of my couches, it becomes out of range.

What this person was arguing is that wireless is always bad. They were not only arguing it was an inferior choice. My wifi is better than a lot people who own cable and have their computers plugged into the Ethernet. I have no problems with my wifi but this person suggests I shouldn't play league because of their own crappy wifi, which is illogical.

DragfinApr 28, 20171 votes

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Yeah, tell that to people with T1, Fiberoptic cables, and etc. People with expensive networks and routers can handle connections well with wifi.

Don't argue with the wealthy. You will lose.

Did you read? I would like to play league but:

I don't care how rich you are. A WiFi connection will never be better than an ethernet connection. So believe what you want. The proof is in the article but ignorant people will argue no matter what.

rtbf221651412Apr 28, 20171 votes

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A WiFi connection will never be better than an ethernet connection. So believe what you want.

Do you even know how to read?

DragfinApr 28, 20171 votes

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Do you even know how to read?

I am not the illiterate one.

rtbf221651412Apr 28, 20171 votes

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I am not the illiterate one.

Yeah, says the one who completely ignored when I said wired is better.

ROFL

ModThe DjinnApr 27, 20172 votes

{quoted}Can anyone suggest why, if someone directly complains about their network and continues their gaming, that it shouldn't be an offence?

...because people with bad and/or occasionally sporadic internet may still wish to play League, and there's nothing saying you have to have good internet in order to do so? Also because what counts as "lag" varies from person to person -- I'm used to shoddy internet, and can play pretty well at 350ms. Some friends with better connections get thrown off their game with their ping is as low as 120ms.

DragfinApr 27, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TBcj3FxM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-27T20:12:25.935+0000)

...because people with bad and/or occasionally sporadic internet may still wish to play League, and there's nothing saying you have to have good internet in order to do so? Also because what counts as "lag" varies from person to person -- I'm used to shoddy internet, and can play pretty well at 350ms. Some friends with better connections get thrown off their game with their ping is as low as 120ms.

Frequent dc's are a reportable offense but RIOT coddles you people too much to make it a banneable offense when it never gets fixed. A person should get 4 trips to LPQ and the 5th offense should be an account ban.

It's called being responsible and is common sense.

You ruin other peoples games and feel it's ok to do that. That is what pisses me off the most about you toxic people.

ModThe DjinnApr 27, 20172 votes

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Frequent dc's are a reportable offense but RIOT coddles you people too much to make it a banneable offense when it never gets fixed. A person should get 4 trips to LPQ and the 5th offense should be an account ban.

It's called being responsible and is common sense.

You ruin other peoples games and feel it's ok to do that. That is what pisses me off the most about you toxic people.

Please look at my match history: you'll see my occasionally high ping doesn't stop me from being useful.

Lag does not always equate to DCs. I've only gotten booted out of a handful of games since Pre-Season 1, and never once been hit by Leaverbuster. :P

rtbf221651412Apr 27, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TBcj3FxM,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2017-04-27T20:51:23.625+0000)

Please look at my match history: you'll see my occasionally high ping doesn't stop me from being useful.

Lag does not always equate to DCs. I've only gotten booted out of a handful of games since Pre-Season 1, and never once been hit by Leaverbuster. :P

It does affect following up on initiations though and supporting.

Also, it affects team fighting.

What you are basically saying is a turtle can be as useful as a cat in running speed.

The higher your ping, the more you have to actually plan ahead and not be able to react when things go wrong.

DragfinApr 28, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TBcj3FxM,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2017-04-27T20:51:23.625+0000)

Please look at my match history: you'll see my occasionally high ping doesn't stop me from being useful.

Lag does not always equate to DCs. I've only gotten booted out of a handful of games since Pre-Season 1, and never once been hit by Leaverbuster. :P

You are not the problem but there are people who are and that is who I am talking about. Frequent AFK's/DC's need to be banned after many trips to LPQ.

Icy Hot ShotoApr 28, 20171 votes

But what if I've been having good connection all day? No lag in games, no dc'ing, normal ping... and suddenly, for some reason, I start lagging in the middle of a game? Is it really my fault that my internet is suddenly having trouble? No, it's not, because I didn't know that was going to happen.

rtbf221651412Apr 28, 20171 votes

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But what if I've been having good connection all day? No lag in games, no dc'ing, normal ping... and suddenly, for some reason, I start lagging in the middle of a game? Is it really my fault that my internet is suddenly having trouble? No, it's not, because I didn't know that was going to happen.

Nobody is even arguing to report those types of people?

Icy Hot ShotoApr 28, 20171 votes

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Really should be a reportable offence.

Your first sentence in your post. c:

rtbf221651412Apr 28, 20171 votes

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Your first sentence in your post. c:

Uh no. We call that nitpicking.

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If I know my wifi is bad, I will not play the game. It ruins the game for at most 4 other people. Others should do the same. There is also an easy way to know if you will lag. One is through a ping test via internet. Next is through the command prompt via windows. Another is via making a custom game with bots (passworded so nobody joins) and seeing your ping through there. You can see your ping via your settings.