Please give us the option to self mute

TeknoTel·4/13/2018, 11:09:59 AM·4 votes·2,059 views

In normals i am completely fine. In ranked I get frustrated. I don't really flame badly, I just critique play in a way I consider respectful.

'Why are you standing at tower on a tank behind me in lane' or 'stop using your root for no reason off cd, we need it for situation x'.

This NEVER goes down well. I will get told I am terrible etc., its all my fault. I will say in return stfu or your playing badly. Yes after enough arguing I will use the word retard. In the eyes of everyone on the forums from what I can read I am toxic. That is the worst of it and usually I am just explaining my point and why the play is bad and how it can be better etc.

Also the majority of the times its the other person who starts it. Yesterday the game it all went to shit, the lux support who is unable to save root for when the karma wants to run in and harass (for the entire lane), actually starts spam pinging me about missing a cs under tower. I have no cs because her nuke keeps taking it and she has that thing where it automnatically auto attacks when she stands still and she has such poor control shes actually accidentally taking cs with it from her passive mark. I said, stop spam pinging me. She then says how I am bad and I cant farm.... This is how it started and I got chat restricted after that game.

I also don't report very often myself so I didn't report her. In my eyes its just a game and someones words are meaningless. If they feed or int thats another matter, I will report then.

Its also completely sporadic. I have been chat banned now 4 times in total. However I behave well enough in between and the distance between chat restricts is so large I never get account banned. I have given up on rewards and honor. I get plenty of commends, I just think my account is so messed up I will never get out of dishonor. I was near to level 2 (one level away) and then decided to play ranked. In pre season I got into gold after not long of game time and placed silver 3 yesterday.

I just got 3 terrible games in a row and had an episode of frustration. The problem is, the skill level is so low that in bot lane, people just don't have a clue sometimes. You can't really have a proper game thats fun or rewarding when your lane partner has no idea of the strategy for the match up. 1 game ok np, 2 games come on man, 3 games in a row I have just sat here for 2 hours without being able to play a fun game because lane partner is not on the same level. Like a tank that is positioning like its xerath, or a front line soraka who is dying every second, yet still comes back to lane and tries to be agro and force fights.

Sure I play badly sometimes, I am silver/gold atm, but I have been playing long enough i know the basics for each match up, when to use my root or whether we can be aggresive or not. Being paired with people who have no idea even what their champ really does in ranked is incredibly frustrating.

I also find the skill level in ranked is abysmal. I have no issue in normal draft for some reason, I notice a dud player like 1 in 10 games and for the most part I am having fun and it seems like people, even though they make mistakes or make poor decisions some times like going for a drake over a open inhib, for the most people can play their characters ok at least and have an idea of match ups or what they can do. Ranked just feels so low, maybe I am just unlucky.

So what I am saying and the point of my bitter rant.

I saw a thread where people said that riot don't have a self mute because people find other ways to be toxic. I am not that person. Please feel free to check my logs, I will even post them if anyone cares. I say the odd word flame work like 'bad' or 'tard' once or twice. Thats it, The rest of it is me trying to explain why I am pissed off with the play. I don't int or grief ever.

So whilst for the players who troll int and feed and are very toxic I see what you are saying, but for people who do use a bad word out of honestly justified frustration or provocation, but don't do any of the other shit, I think this would be a really helpful tool. I am really upset and whilst I know I should control myself, I also know that playing with people who don't even have the basics down in lane is too frustrating for me in ranked.

Ok you down vote and tell me I am a toxic piece of shit now.

17 Comments

Kei1434/13/2018, 11:25:06 AM6 votes

Why not just change your tone of voice?

Don't question their actions, but suggest it to them.

Like "can we have you save your mana and root? We're going to all in them when jg comes and need that off cooldown"

Umbral Regent4/13/2018, 11:51:02 AM4 votes

The main issue I have with the idea of a "Self-mute" feature - which I've voiced on a few of those posts some time ago - is that the very people who need it are the least likely to actually use it. Because self-muting requires you to be conscious of your own negativity/toxicity, and the majority of the players who a self-mute feature would benefit genuinely don't understand what it is they're doing wrong, they just thing Riot's out to get them.

It's good that you are aware of the issue, that certainly puts you a cut above most players who are more or less in the same boat as you. I do have a few questions that I have to ask, I'll chalk it up to three - two of them about the proposed feature, and one about you. Nothing personal, but, here goes;


So, firstly, how do you propose that the self-mute feature would work?

Second, how do you failsafe it? How do you make it so that one cannot simply turn it off in the heat of the moment to harass someone or get into a fight?

And, lastly - knowing the problem is the first step to fixing it. Why, then, would you opt for the easy way out, when you could work to fix the problem instead?

AeroWaffle4/13/2018, 11:56:54 AM4 votes

If you're adamant about self-muting yourself there are tools out there.

For example, "Auto HotKey".

Here is a thread where the OP explains how to program it so that it's only active for league and for it to turn your enter keys into nothing when you attempt to chat.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/OWq53vKX-how-to-self-mute?show=nested

Keep in mind this only prevents you from using chat. This doesn't prevent you from getting upset enough that you lose your temper and do something you regret.

Rank1YasuoBanner4/13/2018, 12:12:47 PM2 votes

Personally I feel like the best course of action is to never say anything to your teammates that suggests anything they did was bad. I don't like that this is the case, but literally anything you say can and will be taken as an insult and it will usually make your teammates play worse. That being said, I think it's better to just not say anything. Your teammates will make mistakes whether or not you say anything, and I honestly think they will make more mistakes if you speak up. So IMO the best option is to remain silent.

If you feel strongly that it is important for you to suggest certain courses of action or to give advice, then I would strongly recommend muting everyone at the start of the game. You can still give out your advice, but you won't see when they flame you for it. Maybe that will help.

130x4/13/2018, 12:15:47 PM2 votes

I am with you. I can never understand why people are against this. In fact, since EVERYONE is against a self mute option, they should void the right to complain when they get flamed. It only logically makes perfect sense.

Quil Evrything4/14/2018, 2:40:34 PM1 votes

"would riot be able to program this easily"? of course they can. they already have code to disable self-chat in place. So they have to only add ONE little checkbox in the configs, which is trivial. and then ONE extra line of code,

if (out-of-chatban-credits || selfmute=yes){skip keyboard chat}