As a banned player myself, my thoughts on the Tyler1 debacle.

Reaper Review·5/2/2016, 7:00:12 PM·64 votes·7,039 views

(I wanted to wait until the initial ruckus died down before posting.)

I've mentioned Tyler in some of my posts before his indefinite ban, and how as a banned player interested in reforming, I particularly dislike what he was doing.

He was getting rewarded with fans, accolades, donation, viewers, and all such for spending so much time specifically NOT reforming. This was also helped by his legitimately being a good player when he wanted to be, especially since good Draven players are few and far between.

Contrast this to someone like myself, someone who won't/can't ever be a popular streamer and isn't particularly good at the game, whose only "reward" for wanting to reform is grinding a new account and having my desire to play be all but butchered by the game's ridiculous content grind.

To me, it's felt EXTREMELY defeating to see Tyler have so much success from his stunts, even more so after seeing all his "fans" coming to his defense (as misguided as that defense is), and I'm glad that Riot's finally put their foot down on him.

It feels like it was a bit "too little too late", though. In his tenure as "Most Toxic Player NA", he had more success than I likely ever will no matter how much I "reform".

It just makes me wonder what the point is now. Sure, I can say I'm "morally better than Tyler1", but is that honestly much of a compliment?

62 Comments

Weathered5/2/2016, 7:08:39 PM21 votes

Thank you for making a useful and intelligent post in player behavior and moderation. I wish you luck with your new account and hope that Riot takes more time to support players who decide to change. +1

Drunk Rummate5/3/2016, 12:53:32 AM9 votes

All I can say is I cringed through his Overwatch stream for about 5 minutes today before realizing he's nothing more than a whiny kid. I don't get what all the hype is about. Though I never really was on board with the community of people who watch things like that either.

I also think twitch chat is cancer, and permanently hide it. I also can't bring myself to watch streamers like Sneaky gasp (despite thinking he's a decent guy) purely because of his donations puking all over the place constantly. So I guess I'm just old and out of it.

Erksuo5/2/2016, 9:11:56 PM9 votes

The reason tyler1 gained popularity isnt because he was "The most toxic player NA" or that he was trying to reform. Its because he has an amazing personality that just makes you want to watch him. Granted there are sometimes were he gets really bad league, but i mean the dudes really competitive and he cant control it, but the popularity has nothing to do with that. Hes pretty much a new sodapoppin if you think about it. Hell he was streaming runescape, town of salem, and club penguin and had a steady 9k viewers.

Reaper Review5/3/2016, 5:27:11 AM9 votes

I'm just kinda laughing at all the comments thinking I'm jealous of Tyler. I suppose I'd also be jealous of someone who got away with robbing a bank because that guy now has a lot of money, right?

No, I'm agitated that he found success by basically breaking the rules in half over his knee, and got away with it for far too long.

If I'm jealous of anything, it'd be his skill at playing Draven. Which is fair, he's definitely a great Draven player and Draven happens to be one of my more liked champions.

Thumpin5/2/2016, 11:44:38 PM6 votes

Stop making posts about this guy, he doesn't matter anymore.

Tiltanium5/3/2016, 4:02:13 AM4 votes

so basically you are frustrated about how real life works. you feel frustrated/jealous that there are people out there, who can show the same behaviour like you but are more successful, because they are talented in what they do and are ACTUALLY doing something to get the attention they have (streaming/entertaining etc.)? grow up.

Veraska5/2/2016, 7:15:10 PM4 votes

If you have a YouTube channel or are interested in one you should document your progress, it'd be nice to see example to the community to show that a former toxic player (that .06 percent of players or whatever) can change for the better.

I'd be interested in least, a real feel good story in a time where toxic players are rewarded for sticking it to riot by fans

Just a thought, good luck man

OmniMoto5/3/2016, 4:46:57 AM4 votes

I vote that this guy gets unbanned +1

Reaper Review5/3/2016, 10:44:21 PM3 votes

Oh, this thread came back. Good.

(For some reason, this whole thread got deleted by accident instead of some guy's post over in Gameplay, and I got a warning for it...)

I'm not trying to argue anything, really. I just wanted to share my own viewpoint. Banned players who can look back rationally are few on this board, after all.

Normally, I'd have just posted this in the main thread, but as we all know, that thread became a complete train wreck within an hour of it being posted.

franticFurball5/3/2016, 10:53:03 PM3 votes

It feels like it was a bit "too little too late"

A bit?

#A bit?

Joke of the century ^^ How many accounts did it take to finally issue that ban? How many hundreds of games, how many thousands of players were made to suffer because of this oversight?

KrugLyfe5/2/2016, 10:40:21 PM2 votes

The reformed thing was a meme

CheckMyKek5/4/2016, 8:21:59 PM1 votes

I really think he can improve his behavior and...i am for debanning him. He was flaming just cuz he was summoner 3 to find bad teamnates. Ik i don't have a good english and stuff like that but i hope you understand :)). Draven