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Update the Tribunal System or Give Leniency

egirl vibes·11/3/2019, 1:07:35 AM·1 votes·2,605 views

Hello there! My name is Abi and I have been playing League of Legends for a little over 8 years now. I'm sure we can all agree that League of Legends is amazing. And yes, the games can be extremely toxic. But, what isn't toxic nowadays?

I came back to League around 6 months ago. League of Legends has always been one of my favorite games. I have spent hundreds of dollars (Probably around $500USD) and a lottttttt of time playing League. I mean, I have almost 6000 games played total (this includes ARAM, TTL, TFT, Coop vs AI). I had came back to League like everyone else does, the other games I play get boring :P. I casually play World of Warcraft as well. World of Warcraft isn't nearly as toxic as League of Legends, but it gets there sometimes. There's a big difference when it comes to WoW's justice system and League's justice system. Some words are okay on WoW, while on League they are not. Apparently if you play Call of Duty or Counter Strike, you can do all the flaming you want in voice chat, no ban or nothing. So, coming back to League after playing WoW for so long, you kind of get adjusted. I got banned for 14 days for saying a naughty word, and it wasn't even meant to come off the way that it did, it was simply a joke. League didn't care though. I used a bad word.

Now comes to November 1, 2019. I had a really bad game. I was playing Zoe, because I accidentally fat fingered her, as I have never played her before. And right after I lock in, I am already getting flamed in Champion Select. This continues on into the game.... and things are getting heated. Bot lane is blaming mid (me) and jungle for not helping the invade, which really.. what could we have done? So as the game goes on, I get realllyyyy upset. I say some really bad things that I wouldn't normally say, but this bot lane triggered me so bad. And yes, I do realize there is no excuse for this. Bullying is not allowed and it is not okay. Of course, I know I am going to get reported by them, and you bet your butt I reported them, too.

Right as I am entering another game, I got hit with the ban hammer. I got perma-banned. I never thought this day would actually come for me. I'm upset. I don't want to play the game ever again. And if I did, wouldn't I just make another account? Now this is where things don't make sense to me. Riot bans me, so I make a new account? Wouldn't I just be even more toxic? Does Riot REALLY think I'm going to spend any more of my money on the game, knowing that they don't give a frick about how I feel? And the Support people (no shade I know it's your job) act like they have never been toxic before or said anything bad towards someone. Yes, people mess up!! Should we blame them forever?! No, I don't think we should. Riot could give me a whole life chat-ban and I would not mind. But why take all my money for granted? It's like a slap in the face. There's plenty of other companies that respect my time and my the money I've invested in.

I have played the game for over 8 years and I have messed up twice. Why can't Riot give me another chance? Why can't Riot just chat-ban instead?

10 Comments

iBuild11/3/2019, 2:39:20 AM3 votes

LOL no. Chat-ban are the stupid things, played some games that perm chat banns for toxic people, Those people resorted to being toxic in other ways. Perma bann is needed.

You already had multiple chances, you don't get perma banned out of the blue.

Spending money on a game doesn't give you immunity from punishment if you don't follow the rules set out by the game.

MeesterMo11/3/2019, 4:58:52 AM2 votes

Setting aside the rest of the stuff in your post, no, we don't all do this. Plenty of us never flame in chat, and go by the rule that if we don't have anything nice to say, we don't say anything at all (yes, that includes when people are flipping out at us - I'm new, I get flipped out at all the time). In fact, even though some games it may not seem like it, I think it actually is the minority of players that do this at all. Lol it's expensive to be a jerk to strangers, huh?

Modi11/3/2019, 6:04:06 AM2 votes

No.

  1. You knew the rules (if you didn't that is your first mistake).
  2. You knew what would happen (see #1).
  3. You chose to break the rules (yes, this was your choice).
  4. You were punished in accordance with the rules (It doesn't matter if you agree with them or not).

Ultimately, you live with the consequences of your actions.

iron4playa11/3/2019, 3:51:23 PM1 votes

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Inkling Commando11/3/2019, 1:45:25 AM1 votes

i hate to add salt to this wound, but i guarantee you the players you reported have not be punished for what they did and probably never will. just goes to show riot only cares about money. but i am glad you are taking this chance to leave the game.

Oldschoolhockey11/5/2019, 10:32:44 PM1 votes

It takes quite a lot to get perms banned. There was a post a few weeks ago of an absolute mistake of a permaban. It showed the percentage of players who were permabanned based on toxicity alone. Don’t remember it fully but it was around .02 or .002 (I don’t remember.) If you truly believe it was a mistake appeal it, but since you’re here asking yo entirely change the system I think you already tried and failed. While the reporting system I believe has flaws, the ban and premabans go through a lot to get there, and that is not flawed.

Imperial Pandaa11/3/2019, 2:22:20 AM1 votes

Sounds like there weren't enough game time between the 14 day ban and perm. After a 14 day, which you escalated to by the apunds of it, you are on thin ice. Assuming you didn't use another zero tolerance phrase, some may agree that another step should exist so you can learn that lesser toxicity is still toxicity.

egirl vibes11/3/2019, 1:57:58 PM1 votes

Thank you everyone for replying and bringing insight to the situation. But, this doesn't exactly answer my main questions. Should someone be blamed FOREVER for a couple mistakes? I had 1 mistake prior to and then the 2nd mistake was a perma-ban. So it's not like I'm a really bad repeating offender. The first time I got banned, the word I said was meant as a joke, but the word is seen by bots and gets you an auto-ban. I've been playing for 8+ years.

Take this for example. You are used to messing around with your friends and used to swearing and having a good time. This would be like your World of Warcraft or Call of Duty/Counter Strike. Then you go to work or school and you have to really, really watch what you say. Most of us accidentally say something they didn't mean. And that's what happened when I first got banned.

Why am I going to be blamed for the rest of my life for being toxic, especially when I wasn't even the one who started it? I am going to be banned for the rest of my life. Don't you think that's wrong? Really try to put yourself in my shoes. Thanks.