A New Approach to Justice: Hard Lessons

Remnar·8/22/2016, 7:43:38 AM·2 votes·1,079 views

Hi there fellow Summoners!

This is a post, and my opinion, on things Riot should look to doing right away. Of course, as with many matters suggested by community members, it assuredly will not come to fruition as Riot lacks the motivation and willpower to manifest this opinion into any meaningful approach, but we can still wish.

This post will do two things, first, it will identify a problem I feel most of us have come across in or time playing League, and secondly, it will suggest new approaches to punishment and player behavior modification that I feel will strengthen the game for those of us who do not commit these types of infractions and therefore will not be affected by a new punishment system, although we will inevitable reap the rewards of the system, as we shall discuss.

---------- Step 1: Identify a Problem ----------

I think I can say with much assurance, that over the time spent by myself and my fellow Summoner's, we have come across the dreaded "leaver" and their much aligned cousin, the "dodger." The actions of those two types of players has an effect on us all, and it is almost always a negative one. No matter the game mode, those actions usually make the rest of the team angry and upset, often leading to a terrible playing experience, and one that all too often is repeated when playing more matches. This is a problem, as most of us would agree, and the current system, I feel, is one that does not instill into the minds of some Summoner's, the repercussions of their actions. Let's fix that.

Currently, Riot's viewpoint on punishment and player behavior is one of rehabilitation, and the "second chance" mentality. While we can all agree compassion is an honorable thing, in a gaming community, it can feel.. out of place. A person who steals from a convenience store because they haven't eaten in days is illegal, but due to the nature of it, we feel compassionate for their plight and empathize with what they are going through, as we should. This isn't that scenario though, and as such, it should not be treated with the same feelings. Here is where the tough lessons come in

---------- Step 2: The Punishment Change ----------

  1. Dodging Queue

1st Queue Dodge = 30 Minute Queue Wait

2nd Queue Dodge = 6 Hour Queue Wait

3rd Queue Dodge = 24 Hour Queue Wait

4th Queue Dodge = 3 Month Game ban

5th Queue Dodge = Permanent Game Ban

  1. Leaving Game

1st Leave = 1 Hour Game Ban

2nd Leave = 24 Hour Game Ban

3rd Leave = 6 Month Game Ban

4th Leave = Permanent Game Ban

All punishments work on a yearly basis. For example, leaving a game in January and then leaving one on May would already put you at the 6 month ban on your next leave, meaning if you left again during the next 7 months, it's a 6 month ban. Likewise, if you left 2 games in January and 1 more in February, you wouldn't be able to play until August. Anymore leaves within the next 4 months and you're done for good.

Queue dodging is bad and annoying, but not really on the same level as leaving a match to a 4 v 5, so the punishment adds one more tier to the same type of yearly schedule.


---------- Conclusion ----------

Now, let us go over the punishments and why they are appropriate, in my opinion. First off, it is not the responsibility of anyone but the player to make sure that they have ample playing time, so the excuses relating to time constraints, such as "gtg to work" or "have to leave sorry!" don't cut it, not with me. You join queue and get in game, you finish that match and then log off. It's that simple.

Secondly, when it comes to emergencies, I get it. I understand things sometimes happen, but if emergencies happen to you often (some players apparently have family members dropping dead every other day..) you should probably stop playing League for awhile and get things straightened out. This is why the first leave is only a 1 hour ban. If you have an emergency to deal with, 1 hour isn't going to run your life, and in fact will let you take care of that emergency.

Thirdly, when it comes to technical issues, Riot has stated that it is not anyone else responsibility to make sure your internet is in good working order and that you have a good connection to the internet and their service. Riot will never punish you if it is their system that goes down, they have said that before. For those who have played League for a long time now, we know what Riot connections use to be like, and it was horrible. Thankfully, their system is doing great these days, for the most part.

And lastly, dodging Queue should be treated equally and enforced in a more spirited fashion from Riot. Not only is it annoying, but it puts players in a bad mood even before matches start and makes the game much less fun. It is more prevalent in ARAM than in other modes, but seeing as ARAM in an official mode, right alongside SR, it should see the same enforcement. Trust me when i say I have played so many champions on ARAM that I either was horrible at, or had never used before. It happens, but that shouldn't give you the right to dodge because you didn't get someone you wanted, at least not without having consequences.

And here is the wrap folks, I believe with this punishment system, players are more likely to weigh the costs of leaving and dodging. With the current system, punishment isn't really defined well enough, leaving many players to casually flaunt the rules and customs of the game. With a known tiered system, players can look at this and say:

"We're losing so badly.. but dang, I have one leave already.. and my next one is a guaranteed 24 hour ban.. and it's Saturday.. Well, I might as well play this losing match and avoid the penalty. "

At least, one can hope. Thanks for reading!

25 Comments

Fizpocalypse8/22/2016, 8:23:03 AM3 votes

So instead of being able to dodge cause people are already trolling in pregame chat i have to sit thru 20+ mins of them trolling in game instead of face being banned? i'll take my free -3 lp and 5 min wait time your punishment system is ridiculous

Vaelentino8/22/2016, 11:06:29 AM2 votes

It's straight malicious intentional trolling when your own team bans who you have hovered then flames you, you shouldn't be penalized for dodging. You already know what kind of game you're about to have based on a player intentionally trying to tilt their own teammates.

Vaelentino8/22/2016, 8:10:02 AM2 votes

banning your champing, flaming you without provocation... I mean where is the punishment for this. dodging is sometimes simply the best course of action rather than being stuck for 40 minutes with trollish children

ESKETITTTTTTTTT8/22/2016, 8:24:31 AM2 votes

Please stay away, 4th dodge perma ban? Jesus.

Agent20908/22/2016, 8:29:41 AM2 votes

Not sure about anyone else, but usually when someone decides that dodging in queue is needed, my entire body goes slack from relief. Dodging is negative? The majority of the time, for me, it's extremely positive.

Vaelentino8/22/2016, 8:48:43 AM2 votes

Instead of going all Joseph stalin on people who dodge... Put a report system in place to explain why you dodge, with the option of submitting a screenshot to back up your case. make the penalties harsh for dodging for reasons other than avoiding a game with trolls, but make the punishments absolutely severe for those trolling in champ select.

I mean what purpose do they serve in the league community? Players, who from the start that have the sole intention of tilting their teammates, are not needed by the community.

Remnar8/22/2016, 9:02:54 AM2 votes

The main purpose of my purpose system is to ensure that players have accountability. It is a game, yes, but as with all things in life, your actions have consequences. Many players, from what I have read and discussions on these boards suggest, feel as if they are entitled to do what they want, regardless of how it may affect those who they play with. Now, why is that? I am liable for the things I say in life and in this game, doing the right things isn't hard, regardless of the circumstances.

I have played many a matches where I have endured flamed filled chats, taunting, bullying, and general trolling by my own teammates. Each time my reaction has been to report them after game and go about my business. Sitting for 20 minutes until we lose or ff due to them isn't really a big burden. Also, having my pick banned in champ select does not give me a right to act like a jerk or bail on a match. You pick someone else and move on. Just my two cents I suppose.

Vaelentino8/22/2016, 8:08:54 AM2 votes

There needs to be a review for when people dodge. Sometimes its not simply because they don't wanna play, or they see a bad matchup because they get countered...

why should you be penalized for dodging a game with trolls in champ select?

Totalwanabe8/22/2016, 11:46:57 PM1 votes

dodge don't affect game play at all.

Vaelentino8/22/2016, 8:57:22 AM1 votes

Even further, if there is a dodge, all players should be asked why it happened. If you get 4 reports of, I dunno it just happened, with no trollish provocation... it's pretty clear what happened. But to prevent 4 man premades from trolling with 4 false reports... let people send se's too. That way if there is a 4v1 situation where the one solo que'r was the one being trolled, Rito can clearly see wtf happened and act accordingly. It's bullying, it shouldn't be tolerated.

Caraméla8/22/2016, 12:49:47 PM1 votes

1st flame : 24 hours ban 1st hard flame: 6 months ban 2nd flame: 14 days ban 2nd hard flame: perma ban hehe

Mistress Shyvana8/22/2016, 7:45:46 AM1 votes

It's a bit harsh but if it's ONLY in Ranked im fine with it.

Leaving games in ranked deserves the fist of justice.