I got perma'd after spending $750 after 6+ years of account time

Sir Piledriver·11/10/2019, 5:00:31 AM·4 votes·3,519 views

I believe I was unfairly perma'd Ive had the account for multiple years and im being charged for past actions and only a few recent. Shit talking in league is what makes it fun and interesting. I started playing the game when I was 11 my brother showed me and and now im 17 being perma'd after spending $750 on the game. I think my chat should just be disabled permanently and my ban uplifted. The ban that set it all off was me saying "irelia ur retarted" and "renekton mad cuz i shat on his boy pussy" which nobody should take offense to that in this day in age. Being treated like its preschool. Also another point I believe if I cant get my account back then I should get a refund on all i spent. Taking hundreds of dollars and I cant have it back after what I believe is an unfair perma. I am by no means a toxic player but when people talk trash I'm not just gonna sit there and take it. People in chat literally can say anything they want to me without punishment but because of past actions I am just banned after 2 insults, crazy. ;(

78 Comments

ModPrandine11/10/2019, 5:07:38 AM21 votes

If you would like to truly discuss your ban then please post your entire unedited chat logs here in this thread. That said, spending money =/= immunity to the rules which you seemed to have learned the hard way, and also that other people misbehaving does not excuse your own misbehavior.

rujitra11/10/2019, 5:22:32 AM12 votes

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I believe I was unfairly perma'd

No. You weren't.

Ive had the account for multiple years

Doesn't matter.

and im being charged for past actions and only a few recent.

Past actions fall off. If you're getting higher levels of punishment up to a permanent ban, it's because it's too frequent. If you keep speeding, the police don't just say "well, it's been a year since the first time he sped, so we're just going to ignore that". The only way past behavior gets forgiven is if you stop that behavior.

Shit talking in league is what makes it fun and interesting.

Insulting and harassing teammates is not "shit talking", it's abuse. Shit talking is things like "lol nice flash", calling someone's computer a toaster, poking fun at people who fuck up (in a joking way, not an insulting/rude way), etc.

now im 17 being perma'd after spending $750 on the game

Neither the amount of money you spend, nor your age, matters.

I think my chat should just be disabled permanently and my ban uplifted.

Riot tried this. They even tried unbanning people. Twice. Over 95% of players given another chance after a permanent ban either remained toxic in chat and were re-banned quickly (meaning they just ruined more games before getting banned again), or they resorted to trolling/griefing (meaning they just ruined more games.... you get the idea). So no, Riot isn't going to make an exception for you because then they'd have to do that for everyone, and that increases toxicity in games.

Being treated like its preschool.

No, you're simply being asked to not be an asshole to others. That's not just preschool, that's life.

Also another point I believe if I cant get my account back then I should get a refund on all i spent.

Why? If you buy a ticket to a sporting event and are ejected for violating the rules of that stadium, do they refund your ticket? Nope. If you buy a subscription to, say, a streaming TV channel, with the stipulation it's for personal use, and are kicked off it and banned because you were using it at your business (commercially), do you think you get a refund? Nope.

You agreed to terms as part of your purchase. You broke those terms.

Taking hundreds of dollars and I cant have it back after what I believe is an unfair perma.

They didn't take it. You gave them it.

I am by no means a toxic player

Your logs and the fact you are acting this way after multiple warnings says differently.

but when people talk trash I'm not just gonna sit there and take it.

That's your right. Riot has the right to set rules that you can't do that, and if you want to violate them, you can. Riot has the right to enforce their rules and to prohibit you from using their services.

People in chat literally can say anything they want to me without punishment

They are subject to the same rules you are.

but because of past actions I am just banned after 2 insults, crazy. ;(

There's a hell of a lot more than 2 insults. Let me point out all parts of your log that are toxic:

Game 1 In-Game Sir Piledriver: irelia ur retarted Sir Piledriver: irelia i saw u fight under tower instead of fighting the rengar that wasnt under tower

Sir Piledriver: 0/5 Sir Piledriver: quit the g ame Sir Piledriver: get gud and i will

Sir Piledriver: trist Sir Piledriver: ur bad Sir Piledriver: just stop talking Sir Piledriver: trist ur 2/4 Sir Piledriver: just stop talking

Sir Piledriver: u did this to yourself Sir Piledriver: now suffer Sir Piledriver: feeds and complain when we lose Sir Piledriver: trash team

Sir Piledriver: irelia is 0/8 and botlane fed Sir Piledriver: your 0 and 5 and im 10 and 4 Sir Piledriver: 5 Sir Piledriver: explain Sir Piledriver: finally got his first kill Sir Piledriver: 1/4

Sir Piledriver: trist did nothing so you misewell build correctly and TRY to do something Sir Piledriver: sarcasm?

Sir Piledriver: and to think my team is trash talking me Sir Piledriver: someone with an actual brain

Sir Piledriver: its 30 to 34 im trying my best to carry aatrox stop inting and whining and play the game Sir Piledriver: yeah 2 iq league players

Hell, that doesn't even include post game. And this is over half your log. Flaming people for their scores, continually harassing them for mistakes, that's not "trash talk". That's flaming and abuse. Plain and simple.

AeroWaffle11/10/2019, 5:10:51 AM10 votes

You're responsible for your own actions and the amount of money you've spent on the game doesn't give you any protection when you're breaking the rules.

If you wanted to be chat muted you had the option to turn off teamchat yourself. Riot already tried endless chat restrictions and all it did was increase the number of people who trolled when they no longer had chat as an outlet to piss people off.

The 14-day ban, the punishment prior to the perma, makes it completely clear that the next punishment can be a perma-ban. If you still behave poorly after the many prior punishments and perma-ban warning why should Riot believe you would behave yourself just because your chat was muted?

CominTowardsYa11/10/2019, 5:38:13 AM5 votes

You were unfairly perma banned. No one who is a paying customer should be banned for that given the climate of this game in general. You being banned doesn't stop people from being toxic in my games, so why should I support a poorly made punishment system.

Perma bans should go away for behavior reasons, its silly.

I would just report them to the Better Business Bureau as a consumer.

If you do make another account however, just shut your mouth in games, and you'll be fine. If you do talk, just make it friendly chat or tactical things pertaining to in game strategy only.

Mianta11/10/2019, 8:52:12 AM4 votes

You need some therapy bro.

Sno3w11/10/2019, 5:04:33 AM3 votes

I have people shit talk me and say things far worse than "r%%%%%" and "boypussy" but I report them and then never get banned but you got perma'd for this, feelsbadman.