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Why am I encountering scripting players with hundreds of games at Diamond?

Yenn·3/4/2018, 9:58:17 AM·3 votes·3,293 views

It really shouldn't take this long to deal with these players.

https://i.imgur.com/TJar9Ay.jpg

Until I bought boots, he had targeted all his Q's directly centered on me for a guaranteed hit, because I didn't have enough movement speed to side step them during the delay.

At one point, he was ulting on our Sona about 1.5 screens away from him, and I was on the opposite side of his ult. She died after two consecutive shots, and the third one immediately shot directly onto the center of me, leaving no question that he was scripting. I didn't bother looking him up until I saw this, and surprise, an unranked account with 67% Xerath win rate!

The number of players who have lost LP to this player is absurd, and it's completely unacceptable that they've been getting away with this for this long. If you're going to continue with leaving these players to run rampant for weeks at a time, there needs to be reparation for those of us who encounter this bullshit.

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Tegash3/4/2018, 3:39:57 PM2 votes

This has been occuring at all levels of play for a while now, and it's only getting worse.

A few months ago I had to deal with one or two scripters in my games for ~20 games in a row, and for the rest of the month it was a good 90%. The problem isn't as bad anymore at this moment but having them in roughly 40-50% of my games is still 40-50% too much.

The problem is that these people think they Deserve Challenjour and if they just make it out of Bronze/Silver/Gold/Plat then they can prove how good they are once they play with people who equal their skill level.

Spoiler: They're not Diamond+ level.

Since they came out, scripts have gotten progressively cheaper, easier to make, and more visible in the community. There are advertising vids on YouTube like Shopping Channel ads. Scripting feels safe as an action. This is mainly because Riot only does ban sweeps instead of immediately following up, but that's the flaws of an automated system. It's a necessary evil.

The current scripting boom, unfortunately, has coincided with a new, undetectable script that hooks through the Windows API instead of the League Client options menu. It uses the same mouse positioning tech but doesn't actually interact with the client at all, just reads from it.

There are alternatives that I'm a bit peeved Riot hasn't looked into though. DOTA for example requires your phone number in order to sign up for ranked, meaning that if you cheat or do something else that warrants a ban, that's it. Permanent ban. And it's very hard to get around because the game is linked with your email, your phone number, and your steam account. You'd basically have to create an entirely new identity in order to just get a new account. Much harder than just bing bang boom, new League account.

Unfortunately there isn't going to be any reparation since the terms of use we all sign when booting the game for the first time holds Riot non-liable for time or money lost.

The only question here is, when is Riot going to pull up its socks and deal with this problem? Even if they can't stop scripting outright they can at least make it much, MUCH harder for them to get away with it. As it stands, it feels like scripters basically have no consequences beyond getting their level and elo reset. And it leaves a sour taste in the mouth to realize that the people who get in trouble for cheating basically get a clean slate for doing so.

LGD xiDaDa3/5/2018, 8:32:34 AM2 votes

I can definitely tell you league is dying, and of cause it seems like riot doesn't care cheating. I have encountered several cheaters (here are the links: http://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=hymannaort, http://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=syrium, and more). Ironically, they still believe they are the leader of online game and I can tell you all the things they have done recently are completely trash and perhaps they are concerning the future and therefore they are keep doing radicular resolutions and never solve existed issues.

Abyss Gear Syxx4/19/2018, 12:38:27 AM1 votes

I've been noticing it as well. I am not a diamond player but I've been gold almost every season including this one. People are scripting a lot more in each and every match. I have been pacing my games to deal with it as well because the players who aren't in the know expect you to be as perfect as these players being assisted by scripts. I avoid the weekends entirely because the game is very notably toxic at that time. It's probably more time for people to play with their friends. While riot doesn't want to admit it, more multi-ques cause or are toxic than people playing separately. They just happen to also get punished less often because their targets are likely more demoralized than normal after dealing with them.

Toxicity, Team play and scripts are all sides to the same problem. The newer crowd is a bunch of rude and cheating tyrants. Whether or not a veteran is using the scripts but only to play with friends. I've definitely seen suspicious gameplay at sub gold levels. Enjoy a game of league on the weekends and you'll start seeing silver level players with plat level mechanics but the choice making of a bronze player. That makes no sense, aka scripting.

Onecimus4/19/2018, 12:52:07 AM1 votes

I would just ask how you would expect Riot to deal with the problem without any (or a very small number of) innocent casualties? I know for a fact they would like to hear it.

Hackers are smart, so if Riot banned them right away they would quickly figure out how Riot's system was catching them and make adjustments. If Riot started hand reviewing every case, or even just ones deserving of serious consideration, they would have to hire literally thousands of more people just for that purpose.

This is on top of the fact that saying that someone is for 100% scripting is ultimately a guess, unless you can go through his computer and find the program he is using.

So with all of that in mind, how do you expect Riot to deal with this problem without any (or a very small number of) innocent casualties?

GritsNGravey3/19/2019, 12:46:48 PM1 votes

whats Crazy is I knew a person that did script till his main was perma banned and he made an off account all of which i tried was curious to how scripts worked or helped. Too my shock i ran a whole game with only 2 deaths and 26 kills and 3 assist on Shaco. I didn't need to go invis plan on where to drop a box nothing all i had to do was get close and hit space bar. After that round i was kinda over this game i still play on my main but I see scripting players left and right hell URF you can see how many unranked accounts and clearly tell there scripting simply saying ya i seen that im saving and reporting too. At random watch how which one Quickly Responds with excuses you don't even need to call anyone by name they get scared they are being called out for cheating that they tell on themselves. Its so sad but this game i use to love playing is just Trash Too many Champs that don't make sense and the newer ones are making others seem outdated and useless like the fact that 3 new champs have had Hard gap closeres/stun/knock up/burst/slow all in one skill and you have champs like Sol who can afford for you to get in his face. The guy now has like 1009089 counter champs. He is Strong but will need serious rework to follow the Direction there going. I bet the next new champ has a skill that destroys the map and ends the game at level 6 or can jump from base to whatever low hp champ and gains 300% crit one shot skill.