Punishing Trolls In Ranked Games

DaWitcherGeralt·11/11/2019, 5:21:20 PM·2 votes·2,372 views

I'll be honest, Riot does a lot of good things in League but they have no control over their community. I have a suggestion that will hopefully mitigate this. Say someone is playing ranked and they get a player on their team that leaves the game because they simply deem it not worth playing anymore, or they have an atrocious internet connection. The rest of us have to suffer lp loss simply because one player gave up or wanted to troll or hasn't taken he responsibility to fix their internet connection before playing the game. In instances like this instead of everyone else on that team loosing LP, that person who left on purpose or neglected to fix their internet connection or trolled/gave up etc. should lose all the points that their team would have lost plus their own as a consequence of making their decision. On the second offense they should get banned and put into an elo of their own should they find a way to come back and play. This would create a small community of trolls left only to spread their cancer to each other. This community would ideally be soo small that que times would be the worst they would ever have seen, due to people not being on very often. Essentially a timeout elo hell for trolls. I feel like this would get people not to troll soo much because the consequences are heavy. They either have to deal with the bad wait times, not play the game at all, or start a new account and start over which is a big pain. Lemme know your thoughts on this so we can forge as close to a fool proof system that weeds out the trolls from our elo hell.

22 Comments

Kuthillick11/11/2019, 5:27:05 PM3 votes

All of these have already been suggested and already shot down for a variety of reasons. Searching the boards will get you more in depth explanations on why these aren't going to, and shouldn't, happen.

  1. LP forgiveness + Most harsh LP penalties: Promotes harassment and overly punishes times when emergencies or things out of your control do happen. A single power surge could send someone from 90 LP to 0.

  2. ELO Hell/Prisoner's Island - Riot has continuously said that they will not create a prisoner's island and nor should they. If you can't play nice in the community, you shouldn't get to play at all. You agreed to ToS and Summoner's Code. Toxic to other Toxic players is still Toxicity.

GatekeeperTDS11/11/2019, 8:46:41 PM3 votes

Any time you fuck with LP outside of winning or losing games, you poison individual ranks and the ladder itself.

It's not fair to people in lower ranks to have to deal with punished players who lost 100LP or whatever your idea is. Low rank is not a punishment.

This is also not fair to the enemy team who wins the match. 5 people have to win LP, 5 people have to lose LP or you poison the ladder. The enemy team's victory is hollow If their losing opponents don't actually lose.

Additionally, you're all over the place. You want to apply similar punishments to ragequitters, people who have power outage, toxicplayers, and "trolls."

Here's an idea - practice, farm more, ward more, change up your strategies, play different roles and stop blaming others and you might find yourself winning more games so that the rare loss due to an AFK player isn't the end of the world. Your rank only matters over time, not each individual match. If you ain't climbing, it's on you.

THE MØNEY SHØT11/11/2019, 7:49:00 PM1 votes

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I'll be honest, Riot does a lot of good things in League but they have no control over their community. I have a suggestion that will hopefully mitigate this. Say someone is playing ranked and they get a player on their team that leaves the game because they simply deem it not worth playing anymore, or they have an atrocious internet connection. The rest of us have to suffer lp loss simply because one player gave up or wanted to troll or hasn't taken he responsibility to fix their internet connection before playing the game. In instances like this instead of everyone else on that team loosing LP, that person who left on purpose or neglected to fix their internet connection or trolled/gave up etc. should lose all the points that their team would have lost plus their own as a consequence of making their decision. On the second offense they should get banned and put into an elo of their own should they find a way to come back and play. This would create a small community of trolls left only to spread their cancer to each other. This community would ideally be soo small that que times would be the worst they would ever have seen, due to people not being on very often. Essentially a timeout elo hell for trolls. I feel like this would get people not to troll soo much because the consequences are heavy. They either have to deal with the bad wait times, not play the game at all, or start a new account and start over which is a big pain. Lemme know your thoughts on this so we can forge as close to a fool proof system that weeds out the trolls from our elo hell.

Actually this is an outstanding idea actually. This will help keep griefs and afk players into low elo. They will lose so much lp that players will be more respectful and mindful of trolls/ grieving and afk

CominTowardsYa11/12/2019, 12:52:09 AM1 votes

Is this a troll?

Jax Jungle comes top lane and feeds Lee Sin, I lose lane and we lose the game. He goes 3/13 and says I suck the entire game, avoiding team fights, and gets Dragon when the enemy team is shoving out Nexus with Baron Buff.

Sound fun?

Era Teemo11/12/2019, 9:00:44 PM1 votes

Lets ban all who troll -> OUTCOME: unlucky we banned entire 15millions accounts.

How are you going to define what is troll and then punish those trolls? If you try, others can do the same for you -> OUTCOME: unlucky we banned entire 15millions accounts.

If player get stomped early, he / she will perform bad.

Only way to remove those >>he / she troll, lets ban him / her<< is that, you get some points how points after game (70% gives 3rd part system, 18% gives 1st. part your teammates will and 12% gives 2nd part your opponents will).

Next time you win, you get bonus 1.5x / 2x / 3x / 4x / 5x MMR & LP (used points are removed).

If you follow that no more >>they troll me<<, will appear in boards.

Teslyn11/13/2019, 3:02:44 AM1 votes

i am more annoyed with people crying and spamming surrender than any other issue.

These are the same people that play ranked and says. "its only a game"

Yes, its only a game. There is a normal option. Spamming surrender should cost 100g after the first one and can only be done alive at the nexus.

i dont give a crap about their elo.. i just want to not be annoyed while playing the game.

why on earth does everyone want to rush to punishment? Spam surrendering should lead to a Queue wait.. every surrender after 3 .. thats 10 mins you have to wait to queue up for the next game.. it is apparent players need to be motivated to get up.. get a glass of water .. step outside.. breath some air.. then come back.

Who the piss gives 2 shits about the LP? This is not your private island. Just keep your hands to yourself and shut up.