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You're Not a Toxic Person.

November Star··34 votes·3,516 views

I hope many users who play this game read this post and at least take one or two things from it, it can change your League of Legends experience tenfold.

This thread is not to sympathize with trolls or people who are vindictive and set out from the jump to ruin someone's playing experience. This thread is for anyone who has ever felt frustration, anger, even sadness, after seeing 'DEFEAT' pop up after a long game of League of Legends.

LOSING SUCKS.

I know it sucks because we've all lost before, including myself, more times than I can count. Sometimes when I lose it's out of my control. Bot lane was giving double kills, or our jungler wouldn't gank. I'm winning my lane, but hey, why isn't mid lane warding and then complaining about getting camped? Now the enemy assassin is 5/1, bot lane's outer tower in down 12 minutes into the game, and it's not looking good.

Other times, it's my mistake. I picked the wrong champion, and now my lane is harder than ever. I'm trying my best, I'm changing my tactics, I'm even improving, all I need is a little help, yet my team is giving me no aid; they won't even give me the benefit of the doubt. I want to win! I'm trying my best make it work! If only we could just help each other and collaborate ideas, but no one seems to want to communicate. No one wants to work as a team. The frustration begins to build and soon enough, my fingers are flying across my keyboard and I'm saying mean-spirited things that I would never say to someone's face.

I don't know if you're like me but I'm not a happy camper when I'm losing or when I've lost. My heart is racing, I might get a headache, it's just not a good feeling at all. I'm a competitive person. I don't care what you say. I don't like to lose. No one does. So when I put my time, energy and effort into something, the ambition that I have expands far beyond reaching an objective and I become emotionally invested in whatever I'm competing for. I'm not going to be satisfied unless I win. And if I don't win, yes, I'm going to be upset; in fact, I might even be angry. Especially coming close to victory, and not quite achieving it.

But feeling angry and feeling frustrated after losing is okay. It's normal, and you're not the only person who feels that way.

I used to be furious and lash out, letting my anger boil over and reach unwarranted levels. Because it wasn't "just a game" to me, I don't care if there's always another one. If I spent 40 minutes doing my best, I want to win. That's my time and my effort... wasted.

That's why I became a toxic player, and it translated into other teamwork based video games. In fact, I was a sore loser in real life as well.

But those feelings of anger and frustration don't have to come as often as they do when and after losing.

There are ways to cope with losing, and they've worked with both my friends and I, letting us enjoy our experience playing League of Legends, and other team-based video games that much more.

Here it is.

HOW TO DEAL WITH LOSING AND/OR BAD GAME EXPERIENCES

  1. The step that's most important for me, personally, is Preparing to Play. This means being in a good head space. Being in a bad mood, and then thinking "let me go squash some noobs in League of Legends to take out my anger" is not a good idea. If you're in a bad mood, and losing makes you upset, if the tables turn and you end up losing, you're only going to feel worse. In fact, even if you do win, chances are, you might be an undignified winner and make it an even worse gaming experience for the enemy team. Remember, if you're winning, that means the enemy team is losing, don't make it harder for them to take the L than it already is. You know what it feels like to lose. Being a good or neutral mood beforehand makes keeping your emotions under control easier. Slipping into toxic habits such as cursing at your teammates and intentional feeding becomes far easier when you want spite someone. Don't be that person. You're better than that.

  2. If Communication is Important to You, Play with Friends. Don't you hate it when you're trying to suggest strategies to try and win a team fight or take the dragon without the enemy team knowing, and you're met with silence? I know how you feel. Dealing with this can be easy, just get someone familiar on your team! Playing with friends from school on TeamSpeak or that one guy who's always online on your friends list establishes a ground of familiarity and comfort. You can talk to each other, and this can make playing so much easier, because if even two of your are collaborating and communicating with each other, the rest of your team probably won't want to be left out of the club. Next thing you know, the whole team is pinging each other, you're taking mid tower and dragon at the same time, and Thresh's lantern's are serving you life (literally).

  3. Don't Blame or Get Angry with Your Teammates, they feel bad enough already. Or maybe they don't. Maybe they don't care about winning, and a competitive spirit such as yourself can't understand this, and it's frustrating. Dealing this can be hard, but it's important to remind yourself that they're also losing beside you, and a lot of times, they're trying.

  4. Accept That You Will Never Be Prepared Enough. Ever get ten minutes into the game and realize that you're playing more successfully than the rest of your team and you think "What the hell kind of team am I in?" Match-making is random. Players' skill levels range, and your teammates are not always using the champion they're best at. Unless you're in a 5 player ranked or e-sports team that has practiced with each other over and over again, you literally only have a little more than a minute to coordinate with your teammates, and then after that it's game time. It's not going to be easy, and you're never going to be prepared enough. Once you've accepted that, then the concept of losing never seems too far away, and dealing with defeat becomes that much easier.

  5. Continuously Point Out the Positive Through-out the Match. By the time your game is coming to a close and the enemy team is circling your nexus, you know that you've all tried your best. It feels good when someone acknowledges your highlights. Like when you got a solo double-kill as the ADC and got away with a sliver of health and your whole team congratulated you, doesn't that feel good? Anything from "thanks for warding" to "you've got great cs!" can help you recognize that your team is trying, and by the time losing comes around, you can say "At least we tried," because you've already acknowledged their effort.

  6. Loss is feedback. Knowing that you didn't win can be a punch in the face, but accepting that you lost is a far better way of looking at things. Always be keen to reflective of your own gameplay, you can never know enough in a game in which a lot of times the winner is dictated by luck. Focus on what went right, and then reflect on what went wrong to improves your odds of winning the next time.

And finally, Have Fun. Listen to much, have some snacks with you, play with friends, make jokes At the end of the day, it is a game, which means you get to dictate how much fun you have.

Play well and good luck out there.

40 Comments

Wild Wes11 votes

You should be my therapist +1

n64bomb3 votes

MonkeyKing Every mistake is a lesson.

Just summed it up for you :)

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

Have an upvote my friend. This post will help a ton of people. Myself included.

Way too often I find myself queing up for a game in an attempt to end a losing streak instead of havimg fun.

Maximum Morde2 votes

Too long

Brain Errör 4042 votes

How about actually reading something that's not only well thought out, but also very informative AND helpful all at the same time.

America: Where ignorance is a privilege.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Why? Plenty of other informative things out there that are succint. Time is limited, things to read are effectively inexhaustible.

Stormshadow35032 votes

Well... At least there wasn't a TL;DR that nearly as long as the post itself

Its LiuKang1 votes

Who is requiring you to read every post on the boards? If you scroll down quick and see the length and think you don't want to read the whole thing then don't. The author obviously put time into this post, it's paragraphed, headlines are bold, it's well thought out, and it reads well. It's not a giant rank post, it's someone trying to give his opinion in the community and help other players out.

Troll for Trump2 votes

The game is too snowbally. You'll never have fun when you're behind/losing, and you probably won't catchup 99% of the time. The only way to have fun is to be one of the idiots who say gg and start dancing at baron or trolling

Stormshadow35035 votes

No game is ever completely lost. I've played games where we came back from 3-12 and won, all due to communication, smart plays, and not flaming each other.

PlanetWarwick1 votes

I had a game in ranked before I was 6-2 and the score was 48-7

Divine Winds1 votes

LUL and then team blames you for not roaming lol

or not having farm

or not holding mid and top at the same time

or not calling dragon when it was up

Troll for Trump1 votes

That's right. No game is ever completely lost. But when you feel it's a lost cause, the game is over for you. There will be people like you who will keep going, but most of the times, it's better to not stick so much onto one game(unless it's weighted) and just find another one. People should keep "trying" ,but only out of consideration for others.

It's nice to have one of those extreme comebacks, but how much does that happen? Very infrequently

Spârky1 votes

in happens more frequently if you have a positive attitude. You my good sir im assuming are one of those people that would start the surrender votes instead of try to work with your team to stall out and comeback and win.

Divine Winds1 votes

cy@

PG Sparky should be a psychologist

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

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The game is too snowbally. You'll never have fun when you're behind/losing, and you probably won't catchup 99% of the time. The only way to have fun is to be one of the idiots who say gg and start dancing at baron or trolling

100% agree. It was fun when you had a chance to come back. Right now... you can have the best game ever and know that your top lane just fucked your hopes of any chance of winning (or insert some other dumb scenario here)

This post amounts to carebear bullshit with minimal "be a decent human being" sprinkled in. It's obvious bullshit. There's nothing fun about the game at this point. Even wins feel like an exhaustive experience because I'm 1v5ing most of the time because the general attitude is "you should carry your team if they aren't good...". Which is even more bullshit. But it's the game we play right?

Atlas The Bird2 votes

That's not the game I or most people play. It's a team game, but as the OP said if you really value communication you could always play with friends.

But if the game itself isn't fun, you can always not play-- games are meant to generally be fun.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Atlas Attack,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=R3ijlUxr,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2016-12-24T03:23:48.642+0000)

That's not the game I or most people play. It's a team game, but as the OP said if you really value communication you could always play with friends.

But if the game itself isn't fun, you can always not play-- games are meant to generally be fun.

Failed logic not based in reality.

Atlas The Bird3 votes

Excellent point, well put!

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Atlas Attack,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=R3ijlUxr,comment-id=00030001000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-24T03:57:51.797+0000)

Excellent point, well put!

Thanks, glad you see the error of your ways.

Troll for Trump1 votes

value communication you could always play with friends.

Yet, as you can see in the complaints about Last Season's DynaQ, that ruins the game unless you're a 5 man premade. Or soloQ.

And no, get 4 friends to play League isn't always a valid solution.

Its LiuKang1 votes

thats why you cant 4man a ranked game

Atlas The Bird1 votes

Who said you had to have 4 friends? You could always just duo with someone you communicate well with and work from there, or anything in between, its completely up to you. The good thing is there are not 1, but three different ranked queues for people of all different tastes in terms of teams and you can expect different levels of communications for each.

What other solution can you come up with?

Troll for Trump1 votes

Yet, as you can see in the complaints about Last Season's DynaQ,** that ruins the game unless you're a 5 man premade. Or soloQ.**

No one likes playing with Duos, Trios, or Quads.

Atlas The Bird1 votes

I'm sure you've polled most of the community to justify that statement, because that would explain why when Riot makes moves to support queuing with friends and flex queue, most of the community doesn't seem to have a problem with it. Most of the time you won't know if you're playing with a duo/trio queue unless you check, and even then it doesn't really matter that much. If you think it does, there's solo queue for you where you'll just have to deal with some duos which hardly anyone complains about.

And again, what's your perfect solution?

Troll for Trump1 votes

They isolated flex queue because the community had a problem with it. Even the LCS players hated dynamic Q. Going premade ruins ranked integrity.

Most of the community acknowledges that flex queue is a joke and basically normal draft. That's how detrimental premades are to ranked integrity.

You won't tell if they're premade until they make moves suggesting they are. And they're obvious moves. Sure, if you play in a premade but act exactly like you're in soloQ, that's fine. Their's the ganging up, refusing to surrender, stone silence, camping, etc. etc. Playing as a premade in 2s,3s, or 4s brings more problems than it fixes.

A lot of people complain about premades. Duos too. But because we just got the removal of 3s,4s,5s and reinstalled soloQ ranked, no one's complaining about it.

The complaints about premades has always been around, it became a lot more dominant when DynaQ was added.

SoloQ ranked. For Solos only.

5v5 ranked, for "organized group play". Everything else goes in the norms category. If you're in 2s, that means boosting will be allowed.

In addition, if you're playing in 2s, 3s, 4s, you can't carry with your own ability. Either learn to carry and play by yourself, or, if you like playing with others so much so you don't deal with the "clownfiesta" in soloQ, make an organized group to play other organized groups.

2s, 3s, 4s shouldn't exist at all in ranked.

Iźuku Midoriya2 votes

part 7: accepting your death

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

Utter carebear bullshit.

Sorry but I've 1v5'd most of my games in the past 3 days. I'm not toxic, but this shit makes me rage when EVERY FUCKING SUPPORT I"VE HAD AS AN ADC DECIDES THEY AREN'T GOING TO PLAY THE ROLE.

Not going to debate each point but basically you say it's ok to be bent over and fucked for 40 minutes while your team does nothing. Cool shit.

ModUlanopo1 votes

I disagree. The OP has discovered an important life truth: All your feelings are normal and natural. It's what you do with them that counts.

Horse Grenades2 votes

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Utter carebear bullshit.

Sorry but I've 1v5'd most of my games in the past 3 days. I'm not toxic, but this shit makes me rage when EVERY FUCKING SUPPORT I"VE HAD AS AN ADC DECIDES THEY AREN'T GOING TO PLAY THE ROLE.

Not going to debate each point but basically you say it's ok to be bent over and fucked for 40 minutes while your team does nothing. Cool shit.

I don't want to hurt your feelings, but your rage is because you're not good at this game.

You can get better, and it would be a lot easier, and you would rage less.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

[{quoted}](name=ApocaIypse Meow,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=R3ijlUxr,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2017-01-03T15:36:30.593+0000)

I don't want to hurt your feelings, but your rage is because you're not good at this game.

You can get better, and it would be a lot easier, and you would rage less.

Mad cause bad? Your logic is fucking deplorable.

Horse Grenades2 votes

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Mad cause bad? Your logic is fucking deplorable.

What I'm trying to say is that you get frustrated because you don't understand the game well enough to play well when everyone around you is incapable of doing so.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

[{quoted}](name=ApocaIypse Meow,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=R3ijlUxr,comment-id=0006000100000000,timestamp=2017-01-03T16:40:06.033+0000)

What I'm trying to say is that you get frustrated because you don't understand the game well enough to play well when everyone around you is incapable of doing so.

I think you're barking up the wrong tree and don't understand what you're saying.

Horse Grenades2 votes

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I think you're barking up the wrong tree and don't understand what you're saying.

I think you're inability to accept obvious truths makes you irrational and unpleasant. However, I doubt you're like that IRL. Probably more of an internet persona

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

[{quoted}](name=ApocaIypse Meow,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=R3ijlUxr,comment-id=000600010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-03T18:39:17.863+0000)

I think you're inability to accept obvious truths makes you irrational and unpleasant. However, I doubt you're like that IRL. Probably more of an internet persona

I've been told I come off as "angry". But it's not true. I'm much more capable than you're giving me credit. I'm also capable of using the correct "your".

Horse Grenades2 votes

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I've been told I come off as "angry". But it's not true. I'm much more capable than you're giving me credit. I'm also capable of using the correct "your".

Yeah. My mistake, but 1 out of 2 isn't that bad!

I don't doubt you're capable, but I think your frustration at bad teammates would be better spent with yourself, and focusing on your own skill level.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

[{quoted}](name=ApocaIypse Meow,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=R3ijlUxr,comment-id=00060001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-03T23:06:38.271+0000)

Yeah. My mistake, but 1 out of 2 isn't that bad!

I don't doubt you're capable, but I think your frustration at bad teammates would be better spent with yourself, and focusing on your own skill level.

Likely, it wouldn't. I understand your logic but it's just not true in my case. I can't be expected to 1v5. I just carried a 4v5 on zyra and did 84k damage while out maneuvering and landing more skillshots than the entire enemy team. I was literally getting double kills as they 1v5'd me and forcing the rest to retreat while my team revived. My adc was in the 20k's at 16/16 (most every kill was me or because i got her fed), the yasou was 6/16, the 6/9 ahri afk'd at level 13 and the only slight saving grace was a halfway decent rengar that I LITERALLY TAUGHT how to play better because I showed him how to flank. This isn't just indicative of one game of mine. This is damn near every time I queue. And usually, I don't even have that halfway decent 1 person. I'm sorry, but it's WRONG to assume it's my fault I'm not winning. It's a bullshit mentality shoved down our throats by elitist assholes.

You also completely assume that I don't focus on myself. I try to do better and better every game. But at some point... I can't 1v5. I can land literally every skillshot, poke like a champ, cs maybe not completely perfect but I'll more than keep up and I'm working at getting better it's just hard when there's no real practice mode and it's very rarely able to support 4 people who barely did anything. I don't think you understand that quite literally I had a streak of around 30 games and it continues to be more often than not of playing ADC because it's a fun role... and my support leaves at level 3... or refuses to poke even when I PING ON THE CHAMPION I WANT THEM TO HIT WHEN I NEED THEM TO HIT IT, or can't land a skillshot... ever... doesn't know how to combo or build's damage items and cs's... or leaves when I'm pushed under tower trying to 1v3 as I'm spamming pings for the jungler to come help... It's absurdity... I'm not complaining because there's no grievance.

Mighty Mortein1 votes

I have a bad habit of being a bit more annoyed if/when I stop my enemy laner hard say in mid lane, but say they roam bot and get a double kill. All that hard work in my lane and after all the MIAs and "!" pings especially if I can't follow that gank due to being low or simply against someone who roams very well.

It's just draining performing really well in a game and losing it in the end. I barely ever flame my teammates and just either sigh irl or yell at them w/o actually typing.

If the game is completely one sided against us, I just avoid playing for a few hours so I have time to cool down and whatnot. I have a serious love-hate relationship with this game. I loooove playing it to improve my skills and try to have fun where possible but I can also get very angry at it when I feel like the whole thing is against me.

WitheringAurora1 votes

Question, how so you learn from smurfs? 90% of the time I get ground stomped and don't even get the chance go learn from it. They can just flash+1 shot me the majority of the game as well.

Most of them use the excuse. "Cause i'm playing with a friend" or "because I want to learn new champions" Which in itself is already frustratingly enough because they don't even consider how much stomping someone else can ruin their dayz

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