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The sensitivity of people.

Cuazga·5/25/2017, 6:53:36 PM·6 votes·568 views

Note that I'm totally against blaming.

I've been playing for years and it's getting to a point where you can barely play. Lately I'm playing jungle, but there are times when the games are not as expected, which is completely understandable, but the problem comes in when I sometimes make comments within the game about the players.

For example:

Bot is losing by 0-5, but they keep pushing, feeding non-stop to the enemy jungler ... And I say, please stop pushing if you do not want to lose the game ... Result: I'll report you to a toxic player. ..

Top is feeding 0-3, but keep pushing, and I say, please, could you play more defensive? And your answer is. You're a toxic player, I'm going to report you ...

Really? At what point are we arriving with the sentiment of the people? If they do not support a criticism or comment they do not expect, they should not have the chat open ...

I would like to know how to teach the difference between complaining and blaming... It seems that the vast majority of people do not know it.

12 Comments

YerroFever5/25/2017, 7:32:59 PM3 votes

The sentence "could you play more defensive?" itself is not toxic at all IMO.

If you attach spam pings to it or tell them they're bad and they should uninstall, then it is toxic.

If people can't take constructive criticism, then that's their problem and they need to work on themselves and you can't fix them. They have to want to change.

If that report triggers a review and your behavior isn't toxic you have nothing to worry about.

PandaPenyihir5/26/2017, 5:24:58 PM3 votes

people in this community are about the most fragile humans you'll come across, since riot promotes thin skinned bitching.

everyone who dare say anything remotely mean, gets punished, its just how riot likes it, no freedom of speech, or you get banned.

archerno15/25/2017, 9:33:32 PM2 votes

So at what point do u go there for potential countergank?

Sidney Crosby5/25/2017, 8:20:54 PM1 votes

me: "i think you should have built this item this game" them: "i think you're a whiny sad kid with dead parents" summoner 3

EvilDustMan5/25/2017, 7:46:45 PM1 votes

I can see it. Look, a lot of time I'd be having trouble mid and a LeBlanc or Zed becomes powerful enough to tower dive me. So someone says 'Mid, why aren't you playing defensively, stay under tower'. When that isn't helping.

Is it a bit sensitive to snap back? Yes. Is "play defensively" a helpful statement? Probably not. A little of both directions here.

Myrkrvaldyr5/25/2017, 11:55:13 PM1 votes

Never met such people, I mean, the ones who consider you toxic for telling them what they're doing wrong, I've met the kind who just says ''stfu'' or insults, but no report threats.

Zielmann5/25/2017, 7:39:50 PM1 votes

The good news is that if they do report you for that stuff, it won't mean anything anyhow. Some people are going to be receptive to help, some won't. You can't control that at all. If they don't know how to take advice and they start giving you trouble, just mute them and move on. They're not worth your time.

Also, nitpicking here, but the statements you do have in your post, while not toxic at all, could still be worded better. "Stop x if you don't want to lose" brings up a negative topic (generally losing is unwanted). Also, any instruction starting with "don't" immediately puts the other person in a defensive position. Try saying "make sure you have vision set up when you're going to push the lane" instead.

Cuazga11/6/2017, 6:34:39 PM1 votes

This problem is worst every day...

RookPusher11/6/2017, 6:38:26 PM1 votes

I often do what I'll call lecturing people. I'm sure I'm pissing them off, but I'm not insulting people, i'm at least explaining how to play better.

"When you're behind, you don't chase in the jungle, thats lol 101"

"Blitz, kinda needed you there, dude. Please group or we're going to lose"

"Not sure what WW is doing, but their jungler is camping. If he doesn't respond somehow, this game is over"

It's more about having the argument, rather than saying someone is trash.