I got perma banned b/c I said something to my friend that was explicit, I thought my Taric who was the 3rd person in our Twisted Treeline game was AFK. I did not know he was there and nothing I said was directed at him. I understand I may have said something that was "naughty" but it should not be permabannable if it was not directed at ANYONE or used in a derogatory way.
Hμghes3 votesif you wanna talk to your friend use voice or /r 'text'. otherwise you are harassing your team
Still, randoms shouldn't report people if they're not the ones being harassed.
Umbral Regent4 votesIt doesn't matter if you weren't attacking them in particular. You were still disrupting the game for them. If you can't mind the 3~ other teammates you have, then you can't complain about your punishment.
it was TT, taric raged and afked. Then after he came back he was still sitting in base and called us morons. He then reported us for verbal abuse even though nothing we said was directed at him. We did not disrupt him if he was not playing the game
Hμghes1 votesstill you had 2 other teammates who could have also reported you
again, it was t w i s t e d t r e e l i n e. A 3V3 game mode
Umbral Regent4 votesRegardless of mode or the actions of the other player, you still broke the rules. You don't get a free pass because someone AFK'ed or called you a moron or whatever else - you play by the rules, or you don't play at all.
As I expected, the forums are full of snotty hall monitors. So annoying. This game is full of cowards and crybabys.
ModPrandine1 votesAs I expected, the forums are full of snotty hall monitors. So annoying. This game is full of cowards and crybabys.
I get that you're upset but resorting to insults and name-calling will not get you anywhere here on the forums (which are public by the way, meaning that anyone can chime in with their thoughts on the subject). Umbral Regent is right in that the rules apply to all game modes, so just because it's Twisted Treeline or some other mode doesn't mean that you get off scott free if you start behaving poorly.
As for your complaint in general you and your one friend aren't the only people playing the game, nor are you the only people on your team. Like you said Twisted Treeline is a 3v3 mode, meaning that there's you, your friend and a stranger on your team along with 3 strangers on the enemy team as well. If you want to joke around with your friend in inappropriate ways then keep it out of public chat or just stick to 2v2 play. Otherwise be respectful and considerate of the other members on your team.
P.S. You call other people cowards and crybabies but wouldn't it be considered cowardly on your part for thinking you could get away with poor behavior just because it was a map and mode not named Summoner's Rift 5v5?
I changed my post to show more information, and I apologize for my hissy fit. I was just upset. What I got banned for was in teamchat to my friend. I didn't know Taric was afk while still on the game. I'm not using the map as a scapegoat I'm just saying that there's not 3 other people on the team.
ModPrandine3 votesI changed my post to show more information, and I apologize for my hissy fit. I was just upset. What I got banned for was in teamchat to my friend. I didn't know Taric was afk while still on the game. I'm not using the map as a scapegoat I'm just saying that there's not 3 other people on the team.
Regardless if he was afk or not poor behavior isn't tolerated, and you not knowing he was afk is no excuse for it either. You may not have intended to use TTs 3v3 mode as a scapegoat but look at the way your worded your posts:
it was TT, taric raged and afked...
again, it was t w i s t e d t r e e l i n e. A 3V3 game mode
This gives people the impression that you think that because it's not Summoner's Rift 5v5 it magically makes it okay to behave poorly, which again it doesn't. If you would like to discuss your punishment then please post your entire unedited chat logs here in this thread. Otherwise err on the side of caution from now on: if you don't know if someone will take what you say the wrong way or not then don't say it.
P.S. Since this was a permaban it means that you had a history of poor behavior along with multiple punishments and warnings to improve your behavior or face more punishments in the future. Because those warnings were ignored you received a permaban.
2choppas1 votesCan you not read?
2choppas1 votes"again, it was t w i s t e d t r e e l i n e. A 3V3 game mode" was a reply to "still you had 2 other teammates who could have also reported you" please explain to me how that is being used a scapegoat.
ModPrandine1 votes"again, it was t w i s t e d t r e e l i n e. A 3V3 game mode" was a reply to "still you had 2 other teammates who could have also reported you" please explain to me how that is being used a scapegoat.
Perhaps the person who replied to you missed the part where you said you were duo queuing with someone else (it happens). Aside from that though like I said that statement along with your opening post gave the impression that it being TT somehow made it okay to act up, which given your bad attitude in some of your posts here isn't necessarily a bad assumption to make.
2choppas1 votesMaybe my bad attitude is because I got permabanned for a conversation with my friend??????? Maybe????????
Umbral Regent2 votesWell, here's the thing; you're only telling us that you got permabanned for having a conversation with your friend. You're giving us no information as to what that conversation entailed, and whether or not you broke the rules in that conversation.
Beyond that, you getting permanently banned means that you at least had one prior punishment, which you also don't bother to detail, so, if you're looking to understand your punishment, consider answering these questions:
And, as a question of my own for you in particular: If your conversation with your friend involved offensive chat, why couldn't you have just brought that chat into some other medium, like Discord, instead of putting it in /teamchat where one random person, whom you didn't even know, would have seen it?
2choppas1 votesI wouldn't expect some random person to report me for harassment if i'm not talking to them.
CoopA8262 votesIs this supposed to be a justification for you breaking the rules?
I don't understand ...
Totally Not Jinx3 votesHi there!
Not to go FULL SOCCER MOM, but can we please keep the conversation meaningful? A bunch of people posting the same spammy comment is against the Universal Rules.
If you have questions, feel free to talk to us in the The Boards Moderation Discord or the Discuss the Boards sub-board.
Who Fed Ru2 voteswhat am I supposed to do with that information?
2choppas1 votesif you don't have anything helpful or any useful input, don't comment.
Who Fed Ru5 votesI mean, you are the one not providing anything that's useful in your post. Not even a chat log in there.
youre a sassy one eh
Umbral Regent1 votesStarting in a new comment string because the previous one reached a soft-limit.
I wouldn't expect some random person to report me for harassment if i'm not talking to them.
You're dodging the questions. It doesn't matter if you don't expect some random person to report you, that doesn't change the fact that you broke the rules. I'll ask the questions one last time:
If you can't answer at least Question 1 and 2, then you can't discuss your punishment. Considering how you've been avoiding honest explanations thus far, I'm going to wager that you know full well that you broke the rules, your chat logs would show it, and your punishment (as any punishments before it) was merited.
2choppas1 votesGame 1 2choppas: its a flower 2choppas: yea the flower 2choppas: lol 2choppas: i was cced for the entire fight 2choppas: wtf 2choppas: LOL 2choppas: ok 2choppas: bye 2choppas: yasuo is such a gay champion 2choppas: this fucking game is so fucking annoying 2choppas: let them push up 2choppas: i just need 2choppas: like 20 mastery points 2choppas: fuck u bird 2choppas: so 2choppas: fucking unlucky 2choppas: taric is already gone 2choppas: we told him to not play taric 2choppas: Omw 2choppas: the flash outplay 2choppas: oh shit 2choppas: taric is 2choppas: still here 2choppas: sorry poppy 2choppas: i need like 100 mastery points 2choppas: lol 2choppas: LOL 2choppas: gg all
Umbral Regent1 votesYeah, that merits a punishment. Negativity, and, this line in particular deserves pointed out:
2choppas: yasuo is such a gay champion
You aren't allowed to use "gay" as an insult, regardless of who it's directed to. Whether it's Champion or player, using the word "gay" as an insult qualifies as hate speech.
Hate speech is speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, sexual orientation, disability, or gender.
Pulled from a Google search of "Hate Speech Definition". Bolded the part that most applies.
So, that answers question 1. Now, what about 2? What punishments did you have prior to this? Did you go through the punishment tiers as normal, or did you skip a tier or two? Because your previous punishments weigh in to your punishment just as much as the offense that triggered it.
2choppas1 votesI was previously suspended for flaming an inter in my promos.
ModPrandine2 votesGame 1 2choppas: its a flower 2choppas: yea the flower 2choppas: lol 2choppas: i was cced for the entire fight 2choppas: wtf 2choppas: LOL 2choppas: ok 2choppas: bye 2choppas: yasuo is such a gay champion 2choppas: this fucking game is so fucking annoying 2choppas: let them push up 2choppas: i just need 2choppas: like 20 mastery points 2choppas: fuck u bird 2choppas: so 2choppas: fucking unlucky 2choppas: taric is already gone 2choppas: we told him to not play taric 2choppas: Omw 2choppas: the flash outplay 2choppas: oh shit 2choppas: taric is 2choppas: still here 2choppas: sorry poppy 2choppas: i need like 100 mastery points 2choppas: lol 2choppas: LOL 2choppas: gg all
Hmm, there's nothing in here that's really punish worthy in my eyes. That said, I can't help but feel that this doesn't entirely back up your statement. If that's the case then it can mean only a few things.
A) These chat logs are edited/incomplete. B) You were behaving poorly in pre and/or post game chat. C) This isn't the only game you received in your Reform Card.
I of course may be wrong here, but those are just my thoughts on the subject.
2choppas1 votesI've been previously suspended for flaming an inter in my promos.
2choppas1 votesThe only things said in pre gam chat were "don't play taric please" and "god damn it"
2choppas1 votesif I were to bet money I'd say its "yasuo is a gay champion".
ModPrandine1 votesif I were to bet money I'd say its "yasuo is a gay champion".
First of all, please try to keep your thoughts in one single post as it makes it easier to respond to them that way. Second of all, while there's nothing in this chat log that I would personally punish for, chances are there are other games that you behaved poorly in after getting off a 2-week ban. I would suggest contacting Riot Support for more information about this ban. as unless there's something that you're not telling us here I don't see anything punish worthy in this case (neither in the chat logs or in the actual match itself).
2choppas1 votesDo you know how I can contact them? And thank you for your help, I'm sorry I was rude earlier.
ModPrandine1 votesDo you know how I can contact them? And thank you for your help, I'm sorry I was rude earlier.
If you scroll to the top of the page, go to Explore League and in the drop down menu click on the button that says Support. You can also just follow this simple link here: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us
Also thank you for apologizing for your behavior earlier. Not many people do that.
2choppas1 votesThank you.
EDIT: "Suspensions due to the Instant Feedback System will not be lifted or shortened under any circumstance." I don't think there's anything I can do.
Thank you. "Suspensions due to the Instant Feedback System will not be lifted or shortened under any circumstance." I don't think there's anything I can do.
I would file one anyway just to see if there's anything you might have missed. Riot has been known to lift or shorten (or in rare cases escalate) suspensions in the past if done in error.
2choppas1 votesI guess, I'll message them soon and keep you updated.
