2 week ban...deserved...but what can I....

Zorbius·7/16/2018, 10:51:13 PM·5 votes·2,968 views

Got a 2 week ban, and coming off it tomorrow. I agree it was deserved, it happened, it is over. NOW, what can I do to prevent a permaban? I am planning to type like nothing and just ping, I have a great ISP so rarely encounter DC, and am not planning to ever intentionally feed. Am I safe from a perma? Does this decay (not asking to be toxic asking for peace of mind)? Thanks for any thoughts. I want to improve myself etc.

13 Comments

Jaghatai7/16/2018, 10:57:27 PM5 votes

Also ... don't "fight back" against other toxic players. That seems to be the downfall of many "on the cusp" players (no offense). Just play your best, mute them, let them rip on you and report them at the end of the match.

MrFawknSunshine7/16/2018, 10:54:35 PM3 votes

over time with honor progress it does a soft reset . but if you do something consider zero tolerance you will most likely get perma.

my best advice to you is dont speak to any one directly . just say basic things like drag, baron, go bot turret, etc but dont say god damn it bard why did you ult ur such a troll . etc

but safest bet is not to use chat

best of luck

Silent Gravity7/16/2018, 11:02:56 PM2 votes

Your punishment tier will decrease after 3 to 6 months of regular playing with good behavior. An infraction after that point will result in a 14 day ban.

3-6 months after that, your punishment tier will decrease again, meaning your punishment, if you earned one at that point, would be a 25 game chat restriction.

3-6 months after that, your punishment tier will have finished its reset and your account will be considered pristine.

All4TheJung7/16/2018, 10:57:29 PM2 votes

got off a 2 week ban 2 months ago. just NOW got honor level 1 back... so it's possible. but 2 months of 10ish games a day and getting most honor in about 60 to 70% of my games. it takes a while.

As far as the perma ban. Dont trash talk your team or the enemy. dont do the common banter in all chat like "lol?" "you bad" "camp harder" "you're trash" if you want to talk keep it respectable. the quickest way to perma ban is hate speech. riot doesn't play with racism or sexism.

Zorbius7/16/2018, 11:10:40 PM2 votes

Wow, so much feedback, thanks everyone! Good advice/tips!

BlueThingamajig7/16/2018, 11:20:33 PM2 votes

NOW, what can I do to prevent a permaban?

Well...

I am planning to type like nothing

That's a great way to start. You cannot be banned for chat if you do not chat. Personally, I recommend starting every game with the following two lines of text: 1: gl hf 2: /muteall

Why mute all? Muting protects me from my knee-jerk reaction to respond to others. I can't respond (and possibly be trolled) by toxic players if I never notice toxic players.

Am I safe from a perma?

Absolutely safe? Not exactly. If you slip up and have 1-2 more bad games in the next month, you'll very likely get a permanent ban. But if you stick to saying nothing (and muting all, every game), you will be safe. You might also enjoy the game more when you don't have to deal with teammates bothering you.

Does this decay

Yes, but slowly. It takes ~3 months of regular play (an unclear number of games, but I'm guessing around 100-150) to go from "permanent ban tier" to "14-day ban tier", and another ~3 months to reach "25 game chat restriction tier", etc.

Will my honor level recover

Okay, so you didn't actually ask that. But Honor level decently correlates to the punishment tier decay and is visible to you, so its useful to talk about. And we know for certain that regular, positive play rapidly unlocks and increases honor. Silent, neutral play slowly unlocks and increases honor. And negative behavior that isn't quite bad enough to get punished by the IFS will cause honor gain to basically stop. If you improve in honor level, you can be reasonably confident that what you are doing is improving your account status away from a permanent ban. And possibly be enjoying the game more.

Zombie Gerbil7/16/2018, 11:21:21 PM2 votes

Quite simple. Avoid everything that you did to earn the 2-week ban. Don't insult, don't call out a player's score, don't be negative, don't grief, don't retaliate if someone insults you, don't quote a player's insult, and do not do anything that'd influence your team negatively.

Wacko7/16/2018, 11:31:07 PM2 votes

Do nothing until about 6 months. Then I think you can type freely without a fear of permaban. Also don't flame AT ALL. Mute everyone at the start of the game. Mute all pings too. Just focus on the fear of being permabanned and use it to fuel your positivty :)

icheatedtwice7/17/2018, 9:50:54 PM1 votes

do this in game go to chat and type /fullmute all and then play like you would.

Chermorg7/16/2018, 11:02:07 PM1 votes

Punishments are separate for different offenses - if your 2 week ban was for chat, then only another chat offense would even risk a permanent ban. AFK, leaving, feeding, etc. would all be independent from this punishment.

To prevent another punishment, you simply must follow the Summoner's Code. You seem to be able to grasp what you did wrong, so I'll just point out some highlights from it:

Supporting your team means building them up, not tearing them down. Encourage them after a mistake - don't try to micromanage/analyze it. People don't change in one game, especially when they've moved on and are trying to win but you keep bringing it up.

Driving Constructive Feedback means providing feedback - tactfully. The right time, the right place, the right manner. Spam pinging someone question mark when they fail to ping MIA? Not the right time, not the right manner. Nicely reminding them once to please notify team if laner missing? Right time, right place, right manner. This goes for feedback for pings, communication, gameplay, itemization, etc. Constructive feedback is not criticism. It is feedback.

Facilitating Civil Discussion is simply not saying anything if you don't have anything nice/useful to say. If you want to be sassy towards someone (ex: "Why?" or "wtf") just don't do it. There's absolutely no reason for it. It's not civil at all.

Enjoying yourself but not at others' expense means that you won't berate or flame someone just to make you feel better. It doesn't matter how you feel if you're making someone else feel like crap.

Showing humility in victory and grace in defeat means you behave the same regardless of if you win or lose. You aren't gloating, and you aren't blaming. You aren't flaming and you aren't taunting. You're being honorable regardless of the situation, and treating your teammates as if the game is going on regardless.

Being resolute is kinda an archaic one that's been updated (the entire Summoner's Code has been updated from the website I linked, but it's still the most in depth one on the web). This one basically means you don't give up. While it's not prohibited to call a surrender vote, or even to state your reasoning, pressuring your team to surrender, constantly telling them the game's over, things like that are not okay.


I didn't cover every facet of the Code but hopefully that helps.

Umbral Regent7/16/2018, 11:02:18 PM1 votes

I am planning to type like nothing and just ping...

This is definitely one way to go about it; there may be some difficulty in that regard, depending on what type of person you are - some people have some subconscious need to respond - and if you happen to be one such person, you might need to go an extra mile and start using /muteall at the beginning of every match for safety's sake.

Am I safe from a perma?

Yes, and no. Yes in that, provided you do well to avoid any further slips or negative behaviors, you shouldn't worry much about being permanently banned. No in that you're right there on the brink of it.

Does this decay...

Yes. If you show at least neutral behavior over enough games (I don't know how long, but for frequent players I believe it averaged around a few months?), your punishment tier will de-escalate - first back down to the 14-day tier, then 25-game CR, then 10-game CR, then to "clean slate".

...what can I do to prevent a permaban?

You've already got one path drawn up for yourself, so I'll just add what I may;

  • If you can bear the occasional negative chat from other players/don't have to /muteall, I'd suggest at the very least giving short barks in chat - y'know, GL/HF, GJ, GG - it'd at the very least show improvement, and it'd serve as a good baseline to develop future behaviors from.
  • Do try to pal around occasionally, or - as dumb as it sounds - RP a little bit as your character. (of course, there are some characters you may not want to RP as, but, the occasional quip from your Champion can lighten the mood.)
  • And, of course, one of the biggest pieces of advice I could rightly give; play some matches for fun. Obviously, if you play Ranked, this should best be done in Normals, but pick a Champion you find fun or enjoyable, and try to have a ball.
Tejester7/16/2018, 10:55:02 PM1 votes

Riot makes the rules preety clear, so you should obviously just read them and follow them.

Ignopius7/17/2018, 11:05:32 AM1 votes

I was 2 week ban. And actively decided I would not be toxic. Then I latched out after going on a 20 game loss streak a month later and was permabanned. Riot does not care about its loyal playerbase at all. I'd recommend you start leveling another acct or buying another one. I've been playing this game for 6 years, its completely ridiculous.