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Saying " slave " or " slave champion " "meta slave " or any thing related to slave word its racism

Carry my Anchor·8/4/2019, 9:32:22 PM·17 votes·3,344 views

Saying " slave " or " slave champion " "meta slave " or any thing related to slave word its racism and you get third tier two weeks account suspension without Previous chat restriction "doesn't apply to everyone equally tho"

ok guys let me explain every thing here for you , and hope you share your opinion with wise

i know this is long but i feel injustice here cause my next punishment will be Lifetime banned

let me tell you my story here i know its long one but forgive me for that and i hope you look into my case with wise i will try my best to explain what happen to me exactly with the auto suspension system and one of riot support if u hate to read long posts ill Abstract my case in 7 lines then i will Extend it with more details after the 7 lines if you interested

(( but please dont forget to read the last 2 lines in bottom of the post after those 7 lines ))

TL;DR start here ( 7 lines ) :

First thing i got banned because i said " please report lucian he said KYS" two weeks suspension i contacted Riot to Clarification they told me yes you got banned because you quote "kys" from someone else and we did Investigate your account and its seems that your previous games was toxic because you said " slave " and " low brain " and its appear to us that you deserve the 2 weeks tier three banned without any previous chat restriction and we can't lift the suspension this is our final decision and it can't be changed. And with that, your concern has now been fully addressed and this matter is now considered closed. Any further inquiries about it might get closed without reply! Thank you for your understanding!

Guys Keep in mind the next quotation From riot games website

" THE BEST WAY TO UNDERSTAND YOUR SUSPENSION IS THROUGH YOUR IN-CLIENT REFORM CARD. WE ONLY REVERSE BANS THAT ARE CLEARLY ERRORS MADE BY THE SYSTEM. WE DO NOT GIVE SECOND CHANCES ON ACCOUNTS, OR TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHO STARTED IT."

and they already admit it it was a mistake suspention, just nothing to do ...

now let me tell you exactly what happened in details :

After i got the wrong two weeks suspension ( riot support Approve that was a mistake suspention from the bot but even though they didn't lift it , i still deserve the suspention for another reasons and i will explain it down )

Riot support replay (1) :

there's nothing positive to accomplish by calling him "slave" or "low brain" etc. Words, even the ones said on the internet, can have a serious impact on others long after the game ends.With the above in mind, the suspension will remain on the account until it will expire.

here is the chat logs from 3-4 games that he was talking about 2 words " slave " + " low brain " :

[13:31] (Talon): slave

13:47: refund the skin already

[All] (talon) :he said " KYS " in cha

[All]: (Talon) chat

[All] (talon): report him

[14:23] [All] (Talon): report him

[14:58] [All] (Talon): guys report him ok ?

[15:32] (Talon): refund the skin slave player

18:11: slave

[26:21] [All] Talon: what a slave with 0 skill shots champion

[12:50] Talon: what a slave player this raka

[2019-07-27 19:53:07 EEST]: i respect the low brain

Me ( replay 1 ) :

I approve that already was toxic in some games , and i deserve the punishment you are right but not this kind of punishment what I deserve , there is no warning or chat restriction all 9 years in this account but this third tier instant 2 weeks banned i think its a little bit over for this kind of toxicity or abuse .

Riot support ( replay 2 ) :

First of all, I can't begin this without telling you I'm glad you understand where your behavior was in the wrong.You skipped suspensions because in part, you did quote "kys" from someone else yes, at the same time though, calling someone a "slave" has some racist connotations and if you do get reported for using this derogatory term, the same principle applies, that being, straight up two week suspension.

"as you can notice here guys he changed the fact that its abuse and its a racsim now "

Me ( replay 2 ) :

Thank you so much for clarifying this !!

Now I understand your point of view, we definitely had a miss understanding..I totally did not mean 'Slave' in any racist way at all...I only meant a slave in the gameplay, "meta slave" ..I'm glad we understand each other better now.. I'm totally not racist at all, I would not accept racism in anyway..

as you can see here in my chat logs

[13:31] (Talon): slave

[13:47] (Talon): refund the skin already

[15:32] (Talon): refund the skin slave player

[26:21] [All] Talon: what a slave with 0 skill shots champion

[12:50] Talon: what a slave player this raka

its all related to a champions or player style not a personal at all what i mean here a slave player like a meta slave picking a champions to get carried without skill shots thats what i meant as you can read in my chat logs i am sure no one reports me for this word because many people are using it in game in no racism way at all Just go to youtube type : meta slave + league of legends , and you will know exactly what i mean ,I understand that you " treat all accounts equally, regardless of the age of the account or the amount of monetary value invested in it."But what I meant by "For 9 years my account had never been punished" is that I have no past in harming, toxicity or negativity..But I approve that I was toxic in some games , and now that we solved that I did not mean any racism

Riot Support (replay 3) :

I believe you when you say you didn't mean to do anyone any harm or to condone racism.

That doesn't change the fact that the language was perceived like that in the game by the other players. :'(

Because people lack the context in which you say things and sometimes even explaining your actions can lead to your words being misinterpreted.

Me ( replay 3 ):

in your first replay u said that saying a “ low brain “ “ slave “ may be bad to players and that is abuse ok ,then I gave you my replays then you replayed with new thing it’s just “ slave” and this time it’s a racism thing ok hold on here, thats two separated topics here as you can check the racism under the “ Hate speech “ and u can check my banned was for verbal abuse so you may change that why I got the suspension for please ,

as you can notice up here their are two different stories but its ok ,u said I got instant 2 weeks banned because I quote “KYS”to the enemy team to report him i said exactly" please report lucian he said KYS " u guys got my case starting your investigation looking for a mistake to prove that your system is fine and u can’t lift a suspension u guys digging my account for a mistake and after that u said that I deserve this kind of suspension because i said “ slave “ in a racism way .

Well I already told what I meant by saying slave its like "meta slave " as you can check in my chat logs its related to players + champions not to the person him self I totally did not mean 'Slave' in any racist way at all... its a gameplay thing i told you to google it " meta slave + league of legendsbut this is not our case any more since this word is a bannable word for instant 2 weeks as you mentioned in your previous replay

lets back to " slave " word your system already saying it everyday every server and the system totally fine with it , Literally in each server of league of legends there are player his name "slave" there are a famous streamer he is Diamond 1 now in NA his name " slave " and he is fine not racism at all ? they are all fine they are playing everyday don’t tell me that you gonna do something about it or it’s Privacy thing u can’t tell me about because now in 2019 we can check if the player still active or not through “match history” they are active 100% but i am not

speaking of racism as you mentioned do you think only the African American experience of slavery ?No , every civilization had slaves of some kind at some time. its not about any race here .I approve that already I was toxic in some games , and i deserve the punishment you are right but not this kind of punishment " two week susbention " tier 3 banned without any previous chat restriction.

(( Here a list of players with " slave " name in each server ))

Korea : https://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=slave

Japan : https://jp.op.gg/summoner/userName=slave

North America : https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=slave Famous Streamer [Tarzaned]

"people lack the context in which you say things and sometimes even explaining your actions can lead to your words being misinterpreted" Right ? check their names

Eu west : https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=slave

Eu nordic : https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=slave

Oceania : https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=Slave

Brazil : https://br.op.gg/summoner/userName=slave

LAS : https://las.op.gg/summoner/userName=slave

LAN: https://lan.op.gg/summoner/userName=slave

Russia : https://ru.op.gg/summoner/userName=slave

Turkey : https://tr.op.gg/summoner/userName=slave

Riot final replay :

i know losing access to your account must really suck ! I also know how tilting some players may be that you feel you have no other choice but to retaliate and your current punishment may seem very confusing and undeserved right now!

Please know, however that the system judges everyone individually and other players' negative behavior, or things affecting your personal life are by no means and excuse for a negative behavior on your part as well. Everyone is responsible for their own actions and yours only added up to an already negative experience for the rest of the players involved.

Now, as my colleague explained previously, to help you understand how these investigations work, in such cases we not only take into consideration the triggering games of a suspension, but also your overall behavior from the past games and your impact on the community.

And while the triggering game alone may not be worthy of a 2-week ban, your overall behavior in your most recent games is. That being said, I'm afraid this is our final decision and it can't be changed. And with that, your concern has now been fully addressed and this matter is now considered closed. Any further inquiries about it might get closed without reply! Thank you for your understanding!

that's all ..

thank you for reading i hope you see this from your view do you really think i deserve this kind of third tier punishment for those words ? without any previous chat restriction For 9 years my account had never been punished for toxcity .

29 Comments

Dynikus8/4/2019, 9:48:37 PM21 votes

I don't really understand how there's any racial connotation to slave, seeing as how there have been slaves of every race. Pretty sure the KYS is why you actually got beaned, and calling people slaves is just generally toxic (but not racist).

xXDaBoozeXx8/4/2019, 9:43:19 PM7 votes

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Dorans Pants8/5/2019, 12:31:47 AM3 votes

What´s more likely that this is an exceptional occurrence that has to be dug up misconstrued and exaggerated to make sense or that the system took apparently 9 years to detect your obvious racist and harmful behaviour that you are displaying on a regular basis? Aren´t zero-tolerance rules and wishy-washy guidelines great?

I mean, saying slave like that, in that context, basically next Hitler.

I not well versed when it comes to riot´s punishment system. Does this mean you went from 0 to one punishment away from a permaban? If that´s the case then the system is even more fucked than I thought.

at least inters get away with the benefit of the doubt.

report adc feed8/5/2019, 7:01:32 AM3 votes

Could someone do the courtesy of translating this post into English?

Telephone Booth8/6/2019, 1:53:21 AM2 votes

Why is it racism? God im sick of the thought policing people do these days. People of every race have been enslaved in the past.

omgitsgb8/4/2019, 10:29:17 PM2 votes

thank god league punishes for this type of stuff. Good job riot

World peace plz8/4/2019, 9:44:23 PM2 votes

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[All] (talon) :he said " KYS " in cha

Actually just saying this was prob the reason you got punisht. Dont repeat sutch words and for the slave part honestly why would you call sombody a slave the way you used it y it earns a punishment but still why call sombody a slave ?

rujitra8/4/2019, 10:20:27 PM2 votes

Because people lack the context in which you say things and sometimes even explaining your actions can lead to your words being misinterpreted.

This is the most important thing that you didn't read from support.

It does not matter your intent, it matters what other people see. If I'm telling you "lemon pineapple orange grape" and you think i'm listing off fruits, it's not your fault that I actually meant to say "let's get tacos today" - it's mine, because I did not ensure my message was interpretable the way I intended.

Imperial Pandaa8/4/2019, 10:21:21 PM2 votes

Between repeating the ZT and referring to a player as a slave, probably an easy trigger.

Carry my Anchor8/9/2019, 2:17:54 PM1 votes

thank you guys for the comments but nothing to do here

i am not sad about the account at all but i am sad about that i get punishment because of 1 support team decide that i deserve it .

they approve that the banned was a mistake but they didn't lift it which is against riots terms , they were digging in my account to make me guilty ( strange thing )

from the previous replays from riot support behavior team it’s seems that their are a three probabilities for this situation:

1- they don’t have a permission to lift the suspension.

2- lifting a suspension may take long steps and they don’t have the time for that.

3- they took my case as a personal thing e.g. one side must lose and one side must win .

all i am asking for , is another support team to look into the ticket and check the case dose it really worth 2 weeks suspension without any previues warning for 9 years .

DragonsFlare8/21/2019, 10:09:59 PM1 votes

Same thing happened to me. Riot support is full of crap. They just ignore you and move on because they know they're wrong. I was 2 week banned for being hazed in a flex game where they banned all my adc's because "their last adc fed" so when I feed bot lane I got 2 week banned. Mind you my account of 9 years has NEVER received a ban or chat restrictions AND i had ALL honor badges. So all of that "we take into consideration of your overall behavior" is bullshit. It's why I don't buy skins or anything else on league anymore. I like the game but I hate Riot as a company.