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How far can I go with arguing back without getting reported

e46 Fanatic··3 votes·389 views

Title says it all pretty much. I've been banned in the past for arguing back without using degrading or offensive words with players that are bullying me, only it seemed to be that I was arguing back for too long. Would I get banned for simply arguing back for too long? This is coming from a person that doesn't ever call someone out for being bad, doesn't use the word 'autismo' or 'autistic' and so on. I'm sure you get my point. Actually, sometimes, if they're actually trying to hurt me or someone acting like they know whats up, I'll call them a kid that doesn't know any better. I can't see that being reportable, though.

Easiest way for me to put it: In an extended argument with me trying to ask the other player who is literally bullying me, "what is it that actually makes me bad?" and questions that they just simply can't answer. Where did I go wrong to get banned? These people flaming me are the very same people to report me, btw. I'm sure that in the end they took fault, hopefully.

Don't ask for chat logs this isn't on any specific case.

12 Comments

Lauchmelder2 votes

State your opinion, defend it 2-3 times if needed and if the other player doesn't want to understand it you just mute him.

That's what I do. Never even had a chat restriction.

Kei1432 votes

well, firstly the reports don't matter unless you did something wrong to validate the reports.

I defend myself with gameplay only stuff. Once you start counter attacking with insults, is when the report becomes valid.

Personally I never care about people reporting me, cos I always stick to gameplay related chat only and never insulting others.

Chermorg2 votes

Remember that "defend[ing]... with gameplay only stuff" is bannable if you're constantly bringing up scores or other useless information that doesn't help the team win the game in the future.

Kei1431 votes

typically bringing up scores is used as a harassment tool anyways.

so you are certainly correct there.

Anastaecia1 votes

Address the problem, not the player.

"It's a good idea to ward behind the drag pit, so it doesn't get stolen again"

"You moron, why didn't you ward back there?"

See the difference?

e46 Fanatic1 votes

{quoted}

Address the problem, not the player.

"It's a good idea to ward behind the drag pit, so it doesn't get stolen again"

"You moron, why didn't you ward back there?"

See the difference?

I understand that foul and offensive language is report worthy. Thanks for the example though. I'm here because I'm arguing back with the people that you based your example off of.

Anastaecia1 votes

I've given up on arguing. I assume you mean you are trying to convince someone that a certain game play decision is beneficial to the team, and they wont listen or understand. Anymore, I only chat in maybe 1 in 10 games other than the occasional "gj". Most of the time people take offense if you even make a suggestion in the nicest way possible, so I found it better to just play.

As far as language, it seems like it's okay as long as it's not directed at another player. "Fuck this baron" or "Son of a bitch!" is okay, but not "Fuck this Cait" Or "You are a <random derogatory term>".

Not sure how Riot's system works. Constant harassing seems like an issue. But again, there is a difference between discussing the correct way to use a certain mechanic, even if it gets heated AND directly bad mouthing the other player instead of arguing over the mechanic.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

The 2nd is shorter and saves time? xD

Hexs Fortune1 votes

I just make my point once and mute if the conversation drags out much further.

I'm here to play the game, not have a discussion.

Chermorg1 votes

Why don't you just, idk, mute and not argue back?

Makior721 votes

Chat in this game is petty pointless, everyone is simultaneously the most knowledgeable person about league, and the biggest idiot the world has ever seen. Nothing you say or do will ever change someone's perspective or view point on the internet, league included. You could tell a 0-20-0 sona that maybe rushing thornmail first item wasn't the best choice, but you would still be wrong, and also a jerk, and also troll / report x player for toxic he made fun of my shitty build.

Tldr; mute all at the first sign of conflict, maybe even before.

Telephone Booth1 votes

I didn't read the whole thing, but to your question about it mattering how long you argue back; I would hope yes. I like to think (though I know I'm probably wrong in this society of sensitivity) that toxicity is punishable because it distracts from the game. Your objective is to try to win, so starting arguments in chat obviously distracts from that objective. It turns the focus of the game into a chat war. You participated in that chat war, and that should be punishable. Don't use chat excessively, I know they say that it's about being offensive and all that, but I think the distraction is the most important part. Play the damn game. In the middle of a match, you choose to hold session on whether something is OP, viable, the right move, the wrong move, wtf... just play the game. Go on a forum to discuss what is optimal or balanced.

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