who is the the troll?

II PLUS ULTRA II·10/2/2017, 3:31:13 PM·3 votes·350 views

Dear riot,

I just experienced an unfortunate game where someone banned the champion that i wanted to play on purpose (ornn) because he thought ornn is bad. He told me to learn to play good champions. And from what i understand, riot is all for the thought that i can play what i like. That guy (Alone Vanguard) forced me to play something i didn't want to play or to dodge and get a dodge timer. Which i didn't want, so i picked something i also wanted to play (rek sai) and i picked smite and stole his redbuff to get back at him for ruining my experience. after that i went my support item and played as a normal support would. (ps. the adc was notified and agreed to this response of mine and the midlaner aknowledged that he shouldn't have banned the champion i wanted to play.)

Now my question is... am i the the troll or is Alone Vanguard the troll?

11 Comments

NiamhNyx10/2/2017, 4:36:53 PM2 votes

if so much as a single person does not agree with the retaliation you invoke, it is ruining the game for someone who does not deserve it.

Xidphel10/2/2017, 3:33:06 PM1 votes

Both. You trolled him back.

Chermorg10/2/2017, 3:36:57 PM1 votes

You have two competing mechanics here - the pick mechanic and the ban mechanic.

The TLDR version is that banning takes priority over picking - a player’s desire to not have a champion in that game overrules someone’s desire to play that champion.

The long version is it all depends. Almost always, players who ban champions are permitted to do so for any reason. They don’t want the champion played at all? Okay. They don’t want you playing them? Okay. They aren’t, however, permitted to attempt to force you to give up your role, and if they ban your champion as part of doing so then it would potentially be considered prohibited. It’s a grey area though, as intent is very hard to determine if they don’t say it in chat. In that instance, where they say they just didn’t want the champion played because they didn’t consider it a good champion, that’s generally permitted.

Is it nicer to have a discussion about it? Sure. Is it necessary? No, they’re allowed to just ban the champion to make sure it isn’t played.

Now, on the subject of your actions. I personally think that would be considered as griefing - you specifically and blatantly changed your play style (taking a different summoner spell and champion) to attempt to fuck with the jungler. While I don’t know if you’d be given a punishment based on that one action alone, it’s still not ever good to retaliate in such a way that even appears as trolling to others.