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The banning system

BanMeMoarRITO·2/15/2019, 12:21:46 AM·2 votes·1,763 views

Might be an unpopular opinion, but I really don't think that the current automated ban-bot is helping the game at all. (This is I lie, I think its hot garbage)

The truly toxic (and unavoidable) behavior doesn't get picked up at all, because it is much harder to track. (Inting, giving up, blah blah), but I'd hope that I'm not in the minority in thinking that a tilted jungler going in, pinging, and then backing off to let you die before getting a kill just so he can complain that you are doing bad, is worse then typing "Fuck" in all chat. Or a lane griefing your jungle camps because you didn't make it to gank in time. Or when someone is standing still in lane to flame another teammate and dies.... or any of the hundreds of constant toxic behaviors that people go through.

Even less full on toxic ones, like not attacking the nexus at the end of the game to get style points in have a far greater and far more unavoidable impact that any words can have on the game. Especially when the mute button exists. There is no button that stops our sona afk split pushing lanes because the adc asked her to play less aggressive.

In a game where pings are far more effective for communications with strangers then stopping to type for a most situations, and voice communication is all but required for full team play, I think the chat should be opt in or similar to smite maybe? I personally don't see the chat used for anything constructive, and would rather it not even show up then have it there literally begging me to be toxic to that support ez stealing my cs and feeding because I wouldn't trade him roles.

(This is where I lose what few people made it through)

I'd like to see bans lifted, and doing the probationary thing again. The last few seasons have been the perfect breeding ground for angry and toxic behavior, I get that, and the new system really put the hammer to a lot of accounts that weren't pumping out half the toxicity that other accounts they let through.

I don't think ANYBODY. Should get banned for anything said in chat. Maybe those ridiculous 40 game restrictions, but the game has a mute button. You can mute anybody, and that removes 100% of the toxicity involved from the chat portion.

If you are over 18, and would rather hit the report button just to take away from someone else, instead of the mute button to make it better for yourself I don't like you.

/rant

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Umbral Regent2/15/2019, 12:47:02 AM4 votes

Or when someone is standing still in lane to flame another teammate and dies...

I find it funny that amongst the "truly toxic" behaviors you list, flaming still winds up being one of them.

Which occurrence is incidental - that flaming is a truly toxic behavior, or that wasting time to flame can lead to mishaps like getting killed while typing?

In a game where pings are far more effective for communications with strangers then stopping to type for a most situations...

The ping system is only effective for very rudimentary communication. Warning of incoming threats, absent opponents, enemy vision, requesting aid, warning people to back off, or indicating that you're on your way to a location - that's about it in terms of pings (not counting UI pings like items, CD's, gold, etc.)

More complex communication - which is pretty typical regarding most strategies - simply cannot be done through pings.

...and voice communication is all but required for full team play...

The fact that people can be so largely successful in Solo/Duo queue is pretty indicative that voice chat isn't as big of a necessity as you make it out to be.

...I think the chat should be opt in or similar to smite maybe? I personally don't see the chat used for anything constructive...

You may not see the chat used for anything constructive, but, you're one out of millions. There are just as many, if not more people out there who see constructive use of the chat as there are those who don't.

...and would rather it not even show up then have it there literally begging me to be toxic...

The only thing begging you to be toxic is your own self. You can't blame the existence of the chat feature for your inclinations to spill your vitriol in it.

I'd like to see bans lifted, and doing the probationary thing again.

What, the Level 20 Challenge, or the NA Reform Experiment?

'Cause neither are really going to be happening again soon, and probably won't be happening again period. Permanent bans are intended to remain permanent, and for the largest part, the vast majority of people who got permabanned deserved it.

I don't think ANYBODY. Should get banned for anything said in chat.

A valid opinion, but it becomes an issue when someone wastes so much time using chat to flame and belittle and deride teammates, despite the rules telling them not to.

Riot has to put their foot down somewhere, and they can't be bothered to keep letting someone play when they make a concerted effort to disregard and disrespect the rules they agreed to.

...but the game has a mute button. You can mute anybody, and that removes 100% of the toxicity involved from the chat portion.

Except, unless you're prescient or paranoid, you're not gonna know who's going to be toxic and who isn't - meaning they have to have already affected you for you to need to mute them.

The mute feature is a short term defense, a band-aid solution. It's not a say-all, end-all, be-all, and it doesn't stop the toxic person from wasting their time flaming, either. And most importantly, the mute feature does not magically cancel out the rules.

It's not an excuse to break the rules, and the much like the mute feature, you can report anybody, and that issues repercussions to those who break the rules.

If you are over 18, and would rather hit the report button just to take away from someone else, instead of the mute button to make it better for yourself I don't like you.

Odd of you to assume the reason that people report. Here's the thing; The mute and report features aren't mutually exclusive. I can mute a flamer, and then report them.

I don't do it because I want their accounts banned or whatever, I do it because their flaming is bad for the game, and I want them to learn to act better in future matches.

But, hey, if you still don't like me for knowing the real reason I report, instead of your personal assumption - I welcome the animosity. Just so long as we keep it civil.

DuskDaUmbreon2/15/2019, 12:27:20 AM3 votes

Typing "fuck" in chat isn't going to get you punished lmao.

Also, yes, inting does get punished. Riot just doens't have an automated system to do it. It just seems like they don't when compared to punishments for toxicity because it's incredibly easy to set up a system to ban for toxicity.