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Honest Reporting Questions to Clarify Some Specific Encounters

FUUUBAAAR·9/27/2019, 2:42:46 AM·2 votes·4,822 views

So, of late I've been thinking a bit on the report system as a result of getting back into the game again, and remembering that they took out the "pingspamming" option when they implemented the ability to mute said pings (thank god, was a personal pet-peeve of mine). I ended up with some teammates recently who, while definitely deserving a report, were kind of oddballs in where they specifically fell within the reporting categories. For example; If I had a teammate who was being a negative nancy all match cuz "the game was over at 3 minutes waaah!" I would of course put them down for negative attitude, right? But what about some of the more grey areas?

Say for example you get guy who constantly compliments an opponent, by saying how much better they are than their teammate from the same lane? Would that be more negative attitude, or harassment since literally all his comments are at the expense of the teammate?

Better yet, the cheating option. Is this seriously a thing? How the heck would we know the person was cheating without an outright in-game confession, which to be brutally honest, is more likely to be a troll messing around in chat than legitimately a cheater admitting to it. You can keep track of stats and whatnot for obvious stuff like a level one 1-shotting his lane opponent as soon as the match starts, but there's nothing that would let you know if someone who'd managed to cheat the game (a feat in and of itself, as in, very unlikely) was using something like a minimap cheat to always know where opponents were even while they had no vision of them.

Also of interest, what about stuff like those folks who can't hold a connection to the game for 5 seconds without a disconnect, and when you look at their profile you see a bunch of afk's back-to-back? They COULD be trolling or trying to lower their matchmaking score for easier games, but it's more likely they just know all too well they can't stay connected and are stubbornly trying to play anyway, often at their teammates' expenses. Would that technically be intentional feeding when they die repeatedly as a result of the disconnects?

Politically correct disclaimer alert; most of these situations have happened at one point or another for me, but this isn't some salt-post about how people who do it are bad, or about how we should make fun of them, so please leave responses like that off this board. I'm honestly just curious what the community's thoughts are on situations like these.

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Umbral Regent9/27/2019, 3:19:42 AM1 votes

Say for example you get guy who constantly compliments an opponent, by saying how much better they are than their teammate from the same lane? Would that be more negative attitude, or harassment since literally all his comments are at the expense of the teammate?

I would say both Negative Attitude and Verbal Abuse, since it constitutes harassment through passive-aggressive remarks.

Better yet, the cheating option. Is this seriously a thing? How the heck would we know the person was cheating without an outright in-game confession, which to be brutally honest, is more likely to be a troll messing around in chat than legitimately a cheater admitting to it. You can keep track of stats and whatnot for obvious stuff like a level one 1-shotting his lane opponent as soon as the match starts, but there's nothing that would let you know if someone who'd managed to cheat the game (a feat in and of itself, as in, very unlikely) was using something like a minimap cheat to always know where opponents were even while they had no vision of them.

This is a bit of a situation where the actual cases where the report would be used are really rare. Cheating, though, can be anything from discernible botting (there are a good couple cues to work with), account boosting (the type where one player plays on another's account), or other hints of use of third-party programs.

Basically, if you have a suspicion that someone is either using third-party programs, or otherwise playing illegitimately, that's what you'd report them for - it's rare, but it happens.

Also of interest, what about stuff like those folks who can't hold a connection to the game for 5 seconds without a disconnect, and when you look at their profile you see a bunch of afk's back-to-back? They COULD be trolling or trying to lower their matchmaking score for easier games, but it's more likely they just know all too well they can't stay connected and are stubbornly trying to play anyway, often at their teammates' expenses. Would that technically be intentional feeding when they die repeatedly as a result of the disconnects?

You can report them for intentionally feeding, but I'm not really sure whether or not they'd get punished for the combination of factors present, if only because I know that Riot tends to err a bit more on leniency with trolling/intentionally feeding reports. It's probable enough, but, since there's not really been any precedent, I couldn't really tell you.

Additionally, if I'm not mistaken, continuous AFK/connection issue behavior can potentially lead to account suspensions if it happens too frequently, but, like with your example, I don't really recall any cases which set a precedent for it, so this is to be taken with a grain of salt.

Kei1439/27/2019, 1:51:26 PM1 votes

On the cheating side, you can report people for scripting, botting, ELO boosting or purchasing an account.

Some of those things are super obvious.

Look out of the 100% turn rates of scripters whenever you throw a skill shot at them.

In co-op vs AI, if you see people instant lock it should be a red flag. The bots also click at 0.5 second intervals, so you'll see 2 people move in a new (not necessarily the same) direction at those exact intervals.

The boosters typically advertise their stuff at the end of the game. Some poor dude would have gotten their accounts hacked and used for boosting advertisements. The duo queue part that purchased the boost will be punished on the ban wave as well.

You can report people even if you suspect things happening. It will be up to Riot to review and conclude whether the reported player was indeed cheating/trolling/griefing/ truly having internet issues or just rage quitting.