what kind of "cheats" does riot detect?

shyv·Jan 7, 2016·1 votes·6,284 views

really trying to not get permabanned over stupid shit, and lately i've been using cheat engine to mod fallout 4 but leaving it open while i play league so i don't have to set it up again next time i wanna play fallout. would that be detected as a cheat for league? i have no idea if cheat engine can even modify league at all, but just to be safe, is there a way that riot can detect what other programs i'm running, or just anything that modifies league is noticed?

14 Comments

TenzosanJan 7, 20163 votes

If you are truly worried about Riot detecting this and giving you a punishment, then the simple answer is to just shut off the modder. However since you are not actively modding the game League of Legends, there should be no problem at all. It is always a good idea to close things you aren't using in the off chance that it hurts your game play, but other than that it should be fine.

shyvJan 7, 20161 votes

that's true it's just REALLY annoying. but probably not as annoying as getting permabanned over nothing lol.

TenzosanJan 7, 20162 votes

Exactly~ :) Better to be safe than sorry!

Kao AtlantisJan 7, 20162 votes

Hello trying too hard,

Riot games can't say exactly what they detect or it would allow people who make the cheats to get around their detection systems.

However, they have made a fairly detailed post about this in the past that sheds a lot of insight on what they consider cheating and what they don't consider cheating. Here is the post.

Here are some of the important excerpts:

No software should interfere directly with the in-game player experience between when you press “Play” and the end of game screen.

Custom models and artwork sit firmly in a “use-at-your-own-risk” category, but we’re keeping an eye on them. We can’t optimize for assets we don’t develop, and if they do become a concern in the future (ie. they provide measurable player advantage), we’ll take action based on the stance we just discussed.

Here are some other Rioter comments from that post that are of note:

Is there a list of third-party Applications that are okay?

We will not be maintaining a list of applications that might be approved or denied, because honestly, we’re just not ever going to be able to continually audit every service or function for player security. [Applies to use at your own risk]

Is MKLOL Okay?

I'm afraid not. If any tool out there has features that violate the policies, it's not allowed to use even if you turn some of those features off and use others that are technically okay.

Is LSI Okay?

That's fine, especially since LSI is totally OK to use anyways. We worked directly with them to help guide their feature set in a direction that plays nice with our policies.

[Note: if you want to know what LSI is, here is the link.]

I hope that helped clear up any of the questions you had. Let me know if you have any more.

shyvJan 7, 20161 votes

thanks a lot! that LSI thing seems pretty useful. gonna try it out.

Awkward CouchJan 7, 20161 votes

While I don't know the answer to the specific mod that you have for Fallout, I have heard that people have made scripts for playing games like clicker heroes and hero clickers. All the script does is just make the mouse click while you, the player, are afk. I have heard of people getting busted for that, although I can't confirm it.

shyvJan 7, 20161 votes

damn, sounds scary. my mod basically just lets me work around the red areas in fallout so i can place objects wherever i want and make my settlements look pretty, so i wouldn't think that would mod anything outside the game right?

Awkward CouchJan 7, 20161 votes

I would think that it would look for mods within the game itself, but I think it would also look for scripts. But I am not entirely sure of that. I mean people mod Minecraft all the time and no one has had a problem with that. I think you should be fine, but i would submit a ticket to be sure.

shyvJan 7, 20162 votes

Yeah i think i'll submit a ticket actually. don't want to risk my account even if it's really annoying having to set it up for 10 mins every time.. thanks though

Awkward CouchJan 7, 20161 votes

Sorry I can't be more help, I just don't want you to get banned over something stupid like that.

shyvJan 7, 20161 votes

no it's fine. i thought maybe someone would know which programs are targeted, but i guess if riot released that information people would just find a way to hide it and not get caught

ModWuksJan 7, 20162 votes

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no it's fine. i thought maybe someone would know which programs are targeted, but i guess if riot released that information people would just find a way to hide it and not get caught

My best guess (and this is based on my experience from other games) is that League of Legends detects when an application attaches itself to the game. CheatEngine, for example, scans for processes to attach to, so it's possible that the application was detected and investigated. That's why it's rather important to ensure that you watch what 3rd Party Applications you have running when you run League of Legends, as it could cause a red flag if the application has the capability to modify the game, etc.

shyvJan 7, 20161 votes

yeah i just opened cheat engine and you're right. there's a way to open league with it and googling it is showing there are speedhacks for league so i guess i'll kill cheat engine