If you know for a fact something is the right play, and you tell your team before...

DOUBLE TAPPED E·7/29/2019, 7:44:27 AM·6 votes·2,650 views

But nobody listens, and they just go off in random directions like a bunch of stoned cats to do absolutely nothing of any import whatsoever, then get picked off one by one for the entire rest of the game and you lose even though you won your lane...

...should that be reportable? Refusing to communicate? The entire game their ideas were obviously not working, and they still refused to listen, even though I was being polite and matter-of-fact about it, not spamming pings or flaming anyone, just slowly progressing from suggestion to begging until our nexus exploded and there was nothing I could do to stop it.

Can I have 4 intermediate bots that respond to pings instead of human teammates? I feel like I'd climb much faster.

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Umbral Regent7/29/2019, 8:03:43 AM11 votes

If you know for a fact something is the right play, and you tell your team before...

But nobody listens, and they just go off in random directions like a bunch of stoned cats to do absolutely nothing of any import whatsoever, then get picked off one by one for the entire rest of the game and you lose even though you won your lane...

...should that be reportable? Refusing to communicate?

Having a difference in strategy is not reportable. There's no assigned leaders in League, and it's not against the rules to choose one's own idea over someone else's.

Beyond that, there's no such thing as "the right play"; there are plays that are objectively optimal in response to certain situations, sure, but that doesn't mean that all other potential tactics are bad and immediately invalidated.

It's only against the rules if someone deliberately chooses to do something with the intent to sabotage the match or otherwise harm their own team's chances of winning, and more often than not, bad plays are unintentional.

The entire game their ideas were obviously not working...

Well, first of all, if their ideas weren't working for the entire game, I'm doubtful even the optimal play could have turned things around even if it were pulled off. I have a feeling you're just being hyperbolic about it, but regardless.

Secondly; one can never know when things will turn up for them, and, unless they were doing the exact same things over and over again despite the enemy anticipating it every single time, I fail to see any reason why they should absolutely avoid trusting their judgement. Factors could change, the enemy could misplay or fail to anticipate whatever the other players had planned, etc.

...and they still refused to listen, even though I was being polite and matter-of-fact about it, not spamming pings or flaming anyone, just slowly progressing from suggestion to begging until our nexus exploded and there was nothing I could do to stop it.

And that is unfortunate, but sad as it is to say, people are not obligated to take others' advice, and sometimes people just won't listen. That's one of the sad truths of leadership; some people cannot be led. You could have every visible advantage and reason for people to defer to you, and they'd still trust their own judgement over yours.

And, as stated before, that's not against the rules unless it can be proven that it was with the explicit intent to sabotage the match.

Can I have 4 intermediate bots that respond to pings instead of human teammates? I feel like I'd climb much faster.

Don't ask for something you don't want. Intermediate bots are hardly good, and even if the somehow could respond to pings (which would probably be a friggin' disaster for Riot to try and code), they'd still only be capable of the most basic things; CS'ing, casting abilities, trading, and pushing.

Even bad players can ward; bots can't even do that much.

GatekeeperTDS7/29/2019, 10:21:16 AM4 votes

Refusing to communicate hasn't been a thing in a long, long time, especially now that they've added even more features to hinder communication (hide ally chat).

As long as people are trying to win, they can do it any way they see fit. Nobody is required to obey you. The good news is that you're not required to obey anyone else either.

saphireflame1237/29/2019, 10:49:27 AM4 votes

No its not reportable. Otherwise, someone could make a call that was either good or bad (it doesn't matter), and when no one follows up they'd report them. Well, what if the play caller was muted? Or if the teammates couldn't do that? Or they thought it was a terrible call? That's not reportable. If it turns out being bad, you'd report them for not doing something bad.

CharDeeMcDenniz7/29/2019, 11:06:04 AM4 votes

lol no people wont be punished for not doing what you tell them to

zPOOPz7/29/2019, 11:21:17 AM4 votes

Refusing to communicate was never even a real punishable option back in the tribunal days when it was on your reportable list. That report option has always been a placebo report option that goes nowhere right along side "unskill player" report option. Never once had tribunal saw a refusing to communicate case to be judged nor was it ever shown to be one of the reported reason.

So no, refusing to communicate has never been and will never be a reportable or punishable offense. You are not the team leader. No one is required to listen to you. And no one is going to be punished for not listening to you.

TimX24968B7/29/2019, 6:21:26 PM2 votes

were you ever appointed boss of your team? by who? yourself?